Shock Question for Blaine...

[JMyerz]

A while back on JU and here, you had posted about relocating the lower mounts on the rear axle.

Upon searching, I've found text but none of the photos work. Do you or someone have detailed photos as to where to place the new mounts?

I'm not too interested in the relocation of the uppers, even though the ford bracket look very slick, I'm a big wuss when it comes to cutting the frame nor do I have the skill level YET

My stock mounts are acting like anchors very very well.

Thanks

Justin

[Robert J. Yates]

Justin,
You do realize that you will lose shock travel by just relocating the lower mount higher up on the axle, right? I know they are a pain in the ass but maybe you can simply reinforce them if you are bending them - that was my preferred solution until we did the full conversions on my Jeep and Kats. I figured that the travel was more important than the ground clearance at the time.

[JMyerz]

I realize I will loose travel yes, but I don't think I realize how much.

Maybe the MORE mounts in stock locations would be a better solution for me?

Justin

Originally posted by Robert J. Yates
Justin,
You do realize that you will lose shock travel by just relocating the lower mount higher up on the axle, right? I know they are a pain in the ass but maybe you can simply reinforce them if you are bending them - that was my preferred solution until we did the full conversions on my Jeep and Kats. I figured that the travel was more important than the ground clearance at the time.

[Krash80]

Originally posted by Robert J. Yates
Justin,
You do realize that you will lose shock travel by just relocating the lower mount higher up on the axle, right?

I'm assuming you're talking about upward travel since raising the axle mount should actually increase downward travel. Even so, wouldn't it make a difference what length shock he's running?

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Krash80
I'm assuming you're talking about upward travel since raising the axle mount should actually increase downward travel. Even so, wouldn't it make a difference what length shock he's running?

That a great theory with one teensy tiny little problem. In order for the shock to have more downtravel, you have to increase the length of the rod and that takes a longer body which requires the upper mount to be raised.

You can attempt it with your current shock, but it will bottom out very quickly. When it does, folk generally run a shorter shock to compensate and you wind up with less travel overall.

[JMyerz]

I'm planning on new shocks, I hate the ones I have now.

Aside from the cut the frame and add a mount method, is there anything else I can do?

Justin

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by JMyerz
I'm planning on new shocks, I hate the ones I have now.

Aside from the cut the frame and add a mount method, is there anything else I can do?

Justin

There was a cool little relocation set-up from Nth Degree. I don't recall if the thing actually worked or not though.

[JMyerz]

Originally posted by mrblaine
There was a cool little relocation set-up from Nth Degree. I don't recall if the thing actually worked or not though.

Nth Degree? I tried a google search but came up empty handed. Can you point me in a good direction so I can see this relocation setup?

Justin

[JMyerz]

Originally posted by JMyerz
Nth Degree? I tried a google search but came up empty handed. Can you point me in a good direction so I can see this relocation setup?

Justin

N/M Just found it

Justin

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by JMyerz
N/M Just found it

Justin

Well, I could have told you it was one of the four corners states and nestles quite nicely between Arizona and Texas with Colorado to the north and the rest of Texas to the south.

[JMyerz]

What does everyone think about the angle and placement of this shock?



I'm still clueless about all this, but I'm trying to learn

Thanks

Justin

[Allen]

I'll be getting that relocation system when ym axles are ready.

I think it's very good.

In fact, I think it's only second best to Blain's Ford mount mod.

Try it. Tell me how you like it.

Allen

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by JMyerz
What does everyone think about the angle and placement of this shock?



I'm still clueless about all this, but I'm trying to learn

Thanks

Justin

I thought it would work well, but I think someone said you had to run a shorter shock. If you don't, it a good idea.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Allen
I'll be getting that relocation system when ym axles are ready.

I think it's very good.

In fact, I think it's only second best to Blain's Ford mount mod.

Try it. Tell me how you like it.

Allen

Did jeep ever run those axles or they something you dreamed up?

[Krash80]

Originally posted by mrblaine
That a great theory with one teensy tiny little problem. In order for the shock to have more downtravel, you have to increase the length of the rod and that takes a longer body which requires the upper mount to be raised.

You can attempt it with your current shock, but it will bottom out very quickly. When it does, folk generally run a shorter shock to compensate and you wind up with less travel overall.

I realize that, but would you agree that if my current shocks have 2" of uptravel left in them when my axle hits the bumpstops but are the limiting factor of my droop that i could safely relocate my axle mounts up 1.5" and still gain 1.5" of droop and maintain the same uptravel?
Just trying to make sure i'm not missing something...i understand that what you wrote is the way it usually works out though.

-Ron-

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Krash80
I realize that, but would you agree that if my current shocks have 2" of uptravel left in them when my axle hits the bumpstops but are the limiting factor of my droop that i could safely relocate my axle mounts up 1.5" and still gain 1.5" of droop and maintain the same uptravel?
Just trying to make sure i'm not missing something...i understand that what you wrote is the way it usually works out though.

-Ron-

If I had that scenario I would move the lower up 1.800 and depend on a good bumpstop to keep the shock safe. You are correct in your scenario. I just don't know how to do that yet.

Most shocks have about 2.5 inches of uptravel at ride height now. Seems wierd, but the way most of them are.

[Allen]

Originally posted by mrblaine
Did jeep ever run those axles or they something you dreamed up?

I don't understand.....

I like your soultion the best. But it's a lot of work. I think this soultion from Nth whoever is the second best solution I've seen.

When I swap out my 35, that's the rear shock arrangement I'm going to run.

Unless someone does it before I get the swap done and I find out it sucks. I think you have to run a .5" shorter shock.....

Then I'd be faced with the keeping the stock setup or drastically weakening my frame by cutting into it and welding on it.

Allen

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Allen
I don't understand.....

I like your soultion the best. But it's a lot of work. I think this soultion from Nth whoever is the second best solution I've seen.

When I swap out my 35, that's the rear shock arrangement I'm going to run.

Unless someone does it before I get the swap done and I find out it sucks. I think you have to run a .5" shorter shock.....

Then I'd be faced with the keeping the stock setup or drastically weakening my frame by cutting into it and welding on it.

Allen

We just picked up some more of those Ford mounts for the garage. It still astounds me that they are about 13 bucks apiece.

[Allen]

They're real popular with Toyota guys too.

Allen

[William]

Originally posted by JMyerz
What does everyone think about the angle and placement of this shock?

The jeep pictured doesn't have a gas tank skid of anykind other than the factory one. Is it possible that with the shock placed in such a manner, that it would hit the gas tank skid?

Seems likely.