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Old 10-18-2001, 10:27 AM
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Radio Dispatch from September 11

7:45:48 -- Ground Control 1: American eleven heavy boston ground gate thirty two you're going to wait for a Saab to go by then push back.

7:45:58 -- AAL11: After the Saab cleared to push, and we're gonna need four right today, American eleven heavy.

7:46:09 -- Ground Control 1: American eleven heavy uh understand you need alpha roger. Push back after the Saab is approved.

7:46:15 -- AAL11: O.K. Yeah what I said was we're going to need runway four right today, American eleven heavy.

7:46:21 -- Ground Control 1: American eleven heavy. Roger plan on runway four right.

7:49:20 -- AAL11: American eleven, heavy taxi november.

7:49:23 -- Ground Control 1: O.K. American eleven heavy, just hold right there i'll move you shortly.

7:50:00 -- Ground Control 1: American eleven heavy, you're going to give way to the Dornier and the regional jet on the opposite side. Taxi to the bravo hold point via kilo bravo. Expect runway four right for departure.

7:50:11 -- AAL11: O.K. to the bravo hold point after the regional jet and the Dornier, American eleven heavy.

7:53:23 -- Ground Control 1: And American eleven heavy, I'm gonna have to give you sierra and then alpha to the bravo hold point so just hold short of sierra for now.

7:53:31 -- AAL11: Holding short of sierra American eleven heavy.

7:53:59 -- Ground Control 1: American eleven heavy giving way to that Embraer off your right turn right on sierra alpha kilo one bravo to the bravo hold point for now expect four right.

7:54:09 -- AAL11: O.K. we copy all. Expect four right, American eleven heavy.

7:55:14 -- Ground Control 1: American eleven heavy, taxi to the bravo hold point. Continental's waiting for you. Monitor tower one two eight point eight. Expect runway four right, thanks.

7:55:21 -- AAL11: Twenty-eight eight. We'll expect four right and bravo hold point American eleven heavy.

7:56:27 -- Local Control West: American eleven heavy, Boston Tower. Taxi to runway four right via bravo and monitor the tower one one niner point one.

7:56:34 -- AAL11: Taxi to four right via bravo then nineteen one, American eleven heavy.

7:57:31 -- Local Control East: American eleven heavy, Boston Tower. Good morning, Move right up to hold short of four right after departure maintain three thousand.

7:57:40 -- AAL11: Holding short of four right uh three thousand American eleven heavy.

7:57:57 -- Local Control East: American eleven heavy runway four right taxi into position and hold traffic departing niner.

7:58:04 -- AAL11: Four right position and hold American eleven heavy.

7:59:02 -- Local Control East: American eleven heavy traffic's orbiting north of the field at thirty five hundred feet. Maintain three thousand runway, four right cleared for takeoff.

7:59:11 -- AAL11: Maintain three cleared for takeoff on four right. What are the winds?

7:59:14 -- Local Control East: Wind three three zero at niner.

7:59:16 -- AAL11: Thank you.

8:00:11 -- Local Control East: American eleven heavy, contact departure that traffic's now in your ten o'clock and two miles thirty four hundred feet.

8:00:19 -- AAL11: We have him in sight talk to departure so long American eleven heavy.

8:00:30 -- AAL11: Departure. Good morning, American eleven heavy with you passing through ah two thousand for three thousand.

8:00:36 -- Boston Departure Radar: American eleven heavy, Boston departure radar contact. Good morning. Traffic ten o'clock two miles, maneuvering Cessna Skyland [flying under visual flight rules] at three thousand five hundred.

8:00:43 -- AAL11: We have him in sight American eleven.

8:01:19 -- Boston Departure Radar: American eleven heavy climb and maintain eight thousand.

8:01:21 -- AAL11: Eight thousand American eleven heavy.

8:02:14 -- Boston Departure Radar: American eleven heavy turn right heading one eight zero.

8:02:16 -- AAL11: One eighty American eleven heavy.

8:03:03 -- Boston Departure Radar: American eleven heavy climb and maintain one four thousand.

8:03:06 -- AAL11: One four thousand American eleven heavy.

8:03:34 -- Boston Departure Radar: American eleven heavy turn right heading two two zero.

8:03:37 -- AAL11: Two zero American eleven.

8:04:27 -- Boston Departure Radar: American eleven heavy turn right heading two seven zero contact Boston approach one two seven point two good day.

8:04:32 -- AAL11: Twenty seven two and two seventy American eleven so long.

8:04:48 -- AAL11: American eleven heavy with you passing through one zero thousand for one four thousand.

8:04:52 -- Boston Approach: American eleven heavy Boston approach fly heading two seven zero.

8:04:55 -- AAL11: Two seventy, American eleven.

8:05:14 -- Boston Approach: American eleven heavy, contact Boston center one three three point four two.

8:05:19 -- AAL11: Thirty-three forty-two. So long American eleven.

8:08:54 - 46R: FDX3258, Roger, uh, fly heading 180 maintain mach 80 or less.

8:09:02 - FDX3258: 180 Roger and, uh, for the heading, uh, is mach 8 or less 3258.

8:09:10 - 46R: FDX3601, Maintain mach 80 or greater.

8:09:12 - FDX3601: Mach 80 or greater, FDX3601 heavy.

8:09:17 - AAL11: Boston center, good morning, AAL11 with you paassing through 190 for 230.

8:09:22 - 46R: AAL11, Boston center, roger, climb and maintain FL280.

8:09:25 - AAL11: 280 AAL11.

8:09:28 - 46R: FDX3258, you're recleared direct to, uh, Barnes.

8:09:34 - FDX3258: Direct to Barnes, FDX3258.

8:09:52 - 46R: DAL544, Contact Boston center 125.57.

8:09:56 - DAL544: 2557 for Boston, DAL544, Good day.

8:10:04 - DAL1149: Boston, DAL1149, Leveling at 310.

8:10:06 - 46R: DAL1149 Boston center, roger.

8:10:13 - 46R: AAL11 Climb, maintain FL290.

8:10:16 - AAL11: 290 AAL11.

8:10:37 - 46R: FDX3258 Cleared direct biggo.

8:10:41 - FDX3258: Direct biggo, thank you, FDX3258.

8:10:47 - 46R: FDX3258, your traffic you're going to be following is 12 o'clock and about, uh, 10 miles also southbound with company, company jet.

8:10:54 - FDX3258: Uh, where's that traffic, sir?

8:10:56 - 46R: Eight o'clock and about 10 miles same direction also at 350 company.


8:11:01 - FDX3258: O.K., thanks.

8:11:27 - 46R: FDX3601, contact Boston Center 125.57.

8:11:34 - FDX3601: 2557 FDX3601 heavy.

8:11:58 - 46R: AAL11, your traffic is at, uh, 2 o'clock 20 miles southwest-bound MD80 310.

8:12:04 - AAL11: AAL11, roger.

8:12:16 - 46R: FDX3258, you're cleared direct Sparta.

8:12:19 - FDX3258: Direct Sparta FDX3258 heavy.

8:13:02 - 46R: FDX3258 contact Boston Center 125.57.

8:13:07 - FDX3258: 12557, thank you, FDX3258.

8:13:08 - 46R: Good day.

8:13:29 - 46R: AAL11, turn 20 degrees right.

8:13:31 - AAL11: 20 right AAL11.

8:13:47 - 46R: AAL11, now climb maintain FL350.

8:13:57 - 46R: AAL11, climb maintain FL350.

8:14:08 - 46R: AAL11, Boston.

8:14:19 - 46R: ER 7ML, how do you hear.

8:14:20 - N7ML: ML has you loud and clear.

8:14:23 - 46R: AAL11, Boston.

8:14:33 - 46R: AAL, One, one, ah, the American on the frequency, how do you hear me.

8:14:45 - 38R: This is, uh, Athens.

46R: This is Boston, I turned American 20 left and I was going to climb him. He will not respond to me now at all.

38R: Look's like he's turning right.

46R: Yea I turned him 20 right.

38R: Oh, O.K.

46R: And he's only going to, um, I think 29.

38R: O.K.

46R: Unreadable.

38R: Sure that's fine.

46R: Eh but I'm not talking to him.

38R: He won't answer you. He's nordo roger thanks.

8:15:07 - 46R: N7ML descend at pilots discretion maintain FL(?)

8:15:11 - N7ML: PDM 240, we'll begin down (unreadable) 7 ML.

8:15:13 - 46R: AAL11, Boston.

8:15:22 - 46R: AAL, if you hear Boston center, ident.

8:15:37 - COA683: Boston COA683 is flight level 210 climb 230.

8:15:41 - 46R: COA683, Boston center, roger, climb, maintain FL310.

8:15:45 - COA683: Climb, maintain FL310.

8:15:49 - 46R: AAL11, if you hear Boston center, ident please or acknowledge.

8:16:32 - 46R: AAL11, if you hear Boston center, re contact Boston center on 127.82, that's AAL12782.

8:17:05 - 46R: AAL11, AAL one one, Boston.

8:17:19 - 46R: DAL1149, contact Boston center 125.57.

8:17:23 - DAL1149: 1149, 2557 good day.

8:17:56 - 46R: AAL11, if you can hear Boston center, ident please.

8:18:01 - Flex jet: Boston center, flex jet 420 checking in passing 18 for 230.

8:18:04 - 46R: Flex jet 420, Boston center, roger, climb, maintain FL240.

8:18:12 - Flex420: Climbing to 240 flex jet 420.

8:18:31 - 46R: 7ML, contact Boston center 128.2.

8:18:36 - N7ML: 28 point2 07ML, thanks.

8:18:56 - 46R: AAL11, Boston.

8:20:07 - 46R: AAL11, AAL one one, do you hear the center?

8:20:29 - 46R: This is, uh, Boston.

Radar controller: point out NWA157.

46R: NWA157 is point out, approved.

Radar Controller: Thank you R.T.

8:21:46 - 46R: Flex jet 420, say air speed.

8:21:49 - Flex420: Ah, increasing airspeed now, passing through point, ah, 68.

8:21:52 - 46R: Roger indicated.

8:21:57 - Flex420: 290.

8:21:59 - 46R: Flex420, maintain, ah, what are you going to increase to?

8:22:02 - Flex420: 320.

8:22:03 - 46R: Thank you.

8:22:06 - 46R: COA683, contact Boston center 125.57.

8:22:09 - COA683: 2557 COA683, see ya.

8:22:13 - DAL351: DAL351 leaving 15.4 for 230.

8:22:20 - 46R: DAL351, Boston, uh, center, roger, climb, maintain FL350.

8:22:23 - DAL351: Climbing now to 350, DAL351.

8:22:27 - 46R: AAL11, Boston.

8:23:01 - UAL175: Boston, morning, UAL175 out of 19 for 230.

8:23:06 - 46R: UAL175, Boston, uh, Center, roger.

8:24:32 - 46R: Is that AAL11 trying to call.

8:24:38 - Unknown: (Unreadable) We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be O.K. We are returning to the airport.

8:24:46 - 46R: And, uh, who's trying to call me here?

8:24:53 - 46R: AAL11, are you trying to call?

8:24:57 - Unknown: Nobody move, everything will be O.K. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.

8:26:03 - 46R: DAL351, Boston center on 125.57.

8:26:08 - DAL351: 2557, DAL351.

8:26:21 - 46R: Flexjet 420, Boston center 125.57.

8:26:24 - Flex420: 12557 flex jet 420, so long.

8:27:20 - 46R: UAL175, contact the, um, Boston center on 133.42.

8:27:27 - UAL175: O.K. 3342, UAL175, so long.

8:29:08 - Radar controller: Hello.

46R: Go ahead.

Radar controller: Ya point out there northwest of Bradley BTA4042 be a few minutes so I can get em down.

46R: Point out approved.

Radar Controller: W E

8:33:59 - Unknown: Nobody move please; we are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves.


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8:12:21 -- UAL175: Position and hold runway niner United one seventy five heavy.

8:13:26 -- Local Control East: United one seventy-five heavy runway niner cleared for takeoff traffics holding in position on four right.

8:13:32 -- UAL175: Cleared for takeoff runway niner uniteds one seventy five heavy.

8:13:34 -- Local Control East: United one seventy-five heavy contact departure.

8:14:36 -- UAL: Departure Uniteds one seventy-five heavy.

8:14:44 -- UAL175: Approach, United one seventy-five heavy with you out of twelve hundred.

8:14:46 -- Boston Departure Radar: United one seventy-five heavy, Boston departure radar contact. Climb and maintain one four thousand.

8:14:51 -- UAL175: One four thousand, United one seventy-five heavy.

8:15:41 -- Boston Departure Radar: United one seventy-five, heavy turn right heading, two one zero.

8:15:45 -- UAL175: Turn two one zero, United one seventy-five heavy.

8:16:51 -- Boston Departure Radar: United one seventy-five, heavy turn right, heading two seven zero.

8:16:54 -- UAL175: Turn to two seven zero, United one seventy-five.

8:17:09 -- Boston Departure Radar: United one seventy-five heavy, contact Boston approach. One two seven point two good day.

8:17:13 -- UAL175: Two seven point two, United one seventy-five heavy. Good day.

8:17:21 -- UAL175: Boston, good morning. United one seventy-five heavy out of eight thousand.

8:17:24 -- Boston Approach: United one seventy-five heavy, Boston approach. Fly heading two seven zero.

8:17:28 -- UAL175: Two seven zero on the heading, United one seventy-five.

8:19:09 -- Boston Approach: United one seventy-five heavy, contact Boston center one three three point four two.

8:19:13 -- UAL175: Three three four two, United one seventy-five heavy. Good day.

8:35:35 R42: That's perfect yest go ahead.

8:35:50 Unknown: Control for climb AA693.

8:35:55 R42: Yea AA693 is your control if you want to climb FDX if you want to turn him too that's fine.

8:36:39 USA583: Center USA583 with you at level 350 (35,000 feet).

8:36:54 R42: I'm sorry who was that?

8:37:00 USA583: USA583 checking in at FL350.

8:37:04 R42: USA583 Roger.

8:39:20 Unknown: 42-39 see the 823 FL350 reference that guy on left.

8:39:20 R42: I gave the FDX turns do what you want reference the FDX.

8:39:40 R39: 310.

8:39:45 R42: FDX226 contact New York Center on 133.47, good day.

8:39:47 FDX3226: 33.4 FDX3226 heavy.

8:39:50 UAL457: New York UAL 457.

8:40:11 Unknown call: Sector 10 point out west of LRP 712 at FL410.

8:40:18 R42: Point out approved.

8:40:32 UAL175: UAL175 at FL310.

8:40:37 R42: UAL 175 New York center, roger.

8:40:47 USA583: New York do a favor were you asked to look for an aircraft, an American flight about about 8 or 9 o'clock 10 miles south bound last altitude 290 - no one is sure where he is.

8:41:07 USA583: Yea we talked about him on the last frequency we spotted him when he was at our 3 o'clock position. He did appear to us to be at 29,000 feet. We're not picking him up on TCAS. I'll look again and see if we can spot him at 24.

8:40:20 R42: No, it looks like they shut off their transponder that's why the question about it.

8:41:28 UAL175: New York UAL175 heavy.

8:41:07 R42: UAL 175 go ahead.

8:41:32 UAL175: We figured we'd wait to go to your center. We heard a suspicious transmission on our departure from BOS sounds like someone keyed the mike and said everyone stay in your seats.

8:41:51 R42: O.K. I'll pass that along.

8:41:56 UAL175: It cut out.

8:42:00 R42: IGN 93 line.

8:42:01 IGN: Go ahead.

8:42:03 R42: UAL 175 just came on my frequency and he said he heard a suspicious transmission when they were leaving BOS everybody stay in your seats that's what he heard as the suspicious transmission just to let you know.

8:42:50 USA583: Center where do you place him in relation to 583 now?

8:42:55 R42: He's off about 9 o'clock and about 20 miles looks like he's heading southbound but there's no transponder no nothing and no one's talking to him.

8:43:20 DAL2315: Hello New York good morning DAL2315 passing 239 for 280.

8:43:28 R42: DAL2315 New York Center, roger.

8:43:32 DAL2433: New York center DAL2433 310.

8:43:39 R42: DAL2433 New York Center, roger.

8:43:57 USA583: center USA583.

8:44:00 R42: USA583 go ahead.

8:44:05 USA583: I just picked up an ELT (emergency locator transmitter)on 121.5 it was brief but it went off.

8:44:09 R42: O.K. they said it's confirmed believe it or not as a thing were not sure yet so we're still trying going on another aircraft right now and there trying to see what altitude he's at -

8:44:31 R42: IGN 93 line East Texas.

8:44:36 IGN: go ahead

8:44:38 R42: can you turn that DAL2433 a little bit to the right they got that Eagle flight in there and the guy at 310 that they wanted to look at this American to see what altitude he is at can you put him on a 290 heading and stop the DAL1489 beneath him.

8:44:51 ZBW IGN: we just put DAL2433 on you we will call him again if we have him we will put him on a 290.

8:44:56 R42: I'm not talking to the Delta.

8:44:58 ZBW IGN: O.K.

8:45:00 R42: DAL2433 New York

8:45:03 DAL2433: go ahead.

8:45:05 R42: turn right heading of 290 vectors for traffic.

8:45:08 DAL2433: DAL2433 at 290 we picked up that ELT, too, but its very faint.

8:45:14 R42: O.K. make it a nice tight turn would help traffic 11 o'clock 10 miles northbound turning east-bound at 310.

8:45:21 DAL2433: O.K. we'll make it tight

8:45:51 R42: DAL2433 thank you for the turn cleared direct SBJ.

8:45:57 DAL2433: direct SBJ DAL2433.

8:45:59 R42: roger.

8:46:14 DAL1489: New York Center DAL1489 heavy out of 290 for 390.

8:46:18 R42: DAL683 contact New York Center on 134.32.

8:46:26 DAL683: 134.32 thank you.

8:46:28 R42: UAL467 contact New York Center on 133.47.

8:46:31 UAL467: 133.47 UAL467.

8:46:37 DAL1043: good morning New York DAL1043 checking in at FL390.

8:46:38 R42: DAL1043 New York Center roger.

8:47:16 R42: DAL351 contact New York Center on 134.32.

8:47:21 DAL351: 134.32 DAL351.

8:47:26 R42: DAL1489 are you on the frequency?

8:47:30 DAL1489: DAL1489 out of 310 for 390.

8:47:33 R42: DAL1489 New York Center roger cleared direct PTW.

8:47:47 DAL1489: direct PTW DAL 1489 heavy.

8:47:40 R42: roger.

8:48:50 R42: DAL2315 contact the New York Centerr on 134.6, have a nice day.

8:48:59 DAL2315: 134.6 DAL2315.

8:49:03 R42: 34.6 3-4-point 6.

8:49:38 USA429: USA429 leveling off at 350.

8:49:48 R42: I'm sorry, who was that?

8:49:50 USA429: USA429 leveling at 350.

8:49:51 R42: USA429 New York Center roger.

8:50:14 Unknown: anybody know what that smoke is in lower Manhattan?

8:50:17 R42: I'm sorry say again.

8:50:19 Unknown: a lot of smoke in lower manhattan.

8:50:22 R42: a lot of smoke in lower Manhattan.

8:50:24 Unknown: coming out of the top of the World Trade Center building, a major fire.

8:50:47 R42: and which was the one that just saw the major fire.

8:50:52 DAL1489: this is DAL1489 we see lower Manhattan looks like the World Trade Center on fire but its hard to tell from here.

8:51:02 R42: DAL1489 roger.

8:51:11 DAL1489: let us know if you hear any news down there

8:51:15 R42: roger.

8:51:32 R42: DAL 1043 cleared direct PTW.

8:51:35 DAL1043: direct PTW DAL 1043.

8:51:43 R42: UAL175 recycle transponder squawk code 1470.

8:51:53 R42: UAL175 New York.

8:52:09 R42: UAL175 do you read New York.

8:52:14 R42: DAL1489 do you read New York.

8:52:16 DAL1489: DAL1489 go ahead.

8:52:20 R42: O.K. just wanted to make sure you were reading New York - United, United 175 - do you read New York?

8:52:30 R42: IGN on the 93 line Kennedy.

8:52:46 R42: IGN on the 93 line East Texas.

8:52:52 ZBW IGN: IGN.

8:52:53 R42: do me a favor see if UAL175 went back to your frequency.

8:52:58 ZBW IGN: UAL 175?

8:53:01 R42: yes.

8:53:14 ZBW IGN: he's not here East Texas.

8:53:23 R42: 10 - do you see that UAL175 anywhere and do me a favor you see that target there on 3321 code at 335 climbing don't know who he is but you got that USA 583 if you need to descent him down you can nobody we may have a hijack we have some problems over here right now.

8:53:35 R10: oh you do.

8:53:37 R42: yes, that may be real traffic nobody knows I can't get a hold of UAL175 at all right now and I don't know where he went to.

8:53:51 R42: UAL 175 New York.

8:54:00 USA 583: New York 583

8:54:04 R42: USA583 go ahead.

8:54:10 USA583: yes getting reports over the radio of a commuter hitting the World Trade Center is that nordo [no radio] 76 [Boeing 767] still in the air?


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8:12:29 - AAL77: Good morning ground American seven seven is off of dixie twenty six with information tango.

8:12:36 - Ground Control West: American 77 Dulles taxi to runway three zero.

8:12:39 - AAL77: Taxi three zero American seven seven.

8:16:01 - Local Control West: American 77, Dulles tower. Runway three zero taxi into position and hold you'll be holding for landing traffic one left and for spacing wake turbulence spacing behind the DC 10.

8:16:29 - AAL77: And American ah seven seven is ready.

8:16:32 - Local Control West: American 77, Dulles tower. Runway three zero. Taxi into position and hold you're holding for wake turbulence landing traffic one left and you need to be fifteen in trail of that DC 10.

8:16:41 - AAL77: Position and hold three zero, American seven seven.

8:19:20 - Local Control West: American 77 your departure frequency will be one two five point zero five. Runway three zero cleared for take off.

8:19:27 - AAL77: One two five oh five. Runway three zero cleared for takeoff, American 77.

8:20:26 - Local Control West: American 77, turn left heading two seven zero contact departure.

8:20:31 - AAL77: Two seventy heading departure, American 77. Good day.

8:20:38 - AAL77: Is with you passing one decimal one for three.

8:20:43 - North Departure: American 77, Dulles departure radar. Contact climb and maintain five thousand.

8:20:47 - AAL77: Five thousand, American 77.

8:22:05 - North Departure: American 77 climb and maintain one one thousand eleven thousand

8:22:08 - AAL77: up to one one thousand American 77.

8:23:23 - North Departure: American 77 (whistling sound) cleared cleared direct linden contact Dulles one one eight point six seven.

8:23:28 - AAL77: direct linden eighteen sixty seven American 77 good day

8:23:28 - North Departure Low: O.K. O.K. O.K.

8:23:34 - Radar Control: Got the board there already

8:23:36 - North Departure Low: All right we got normal frequencies all the way around nothing hot at this time. Ah, traffic where is this where is this go one twenty-eight where the hell is that? O.K., O.K.

8:23:43 - AAL77: American 77 with you passing nine decimal one for eleven one one thousand.

8:23:47 - North Departure: American 77 Dulles approach climb and maintain one seven thousand.

8:23:50 - AAL77: one seven thousand American 77.

8:23:55 - North Departure Low: O.K., alright. Point outs at this time you got seven lima vector direct d c a seven thousand november zero nine romeo is at five thousand he's already talking to north north sees the traffic, he's going to climb do whatever he has to do. American 77 is direct linden climbing to eleven switched and gone one tango seven is a point out to manassas seven nine xray's been pointed out to west he's at six thousand on going to join victor one sixty eight other than that that's all you have.

8:24:23 - Radar Control: I got it.

8:25:33 - NH: American 77 contact Washington center one two zero point six five good luck.

8:25:37 - AAL77: point six five American 77 thank you ma'am good day.

8:25:49 - AAL77: center American 77 with you passing one three decimal zero for one seven thousand.

8:25:57 - Controller 5: American 77 Washington center roger climb and maintain flight level two seven zero.

8:26:00 - AAL77: two seven zero American 77.

8:30:38 - Controller 5: American 77 contact Washington center one three three point two seven.

8:30:42 - AAL77: ah thirty three twenty seven American 77.

8:31:08 - AAL77: (unintelligible) American 77 passing two five decimal one for two seven oh.

8:31:23 - Controller 3: American 77 ah climb climb and maintain flight level two niner zero sir.

8:31:30 - AAL77: two niner zero American 77.

8:34:16 - Controller 3: American 77 turn twenty degrees right vector for your climb.

8:34:17 - Controller 3: American 77 turn twenty degrees right vector for your climb.

8:34:19 - AAL77: turn twenty right American 77.

8:37:33 - Controller 3: American 77 recleared direct Charleston climb and maintain cor correction recleared direct Henderson sir climb and maintain flight level three niner zero.

8:37:39 - AAL77: direct Henderson out of two nine for three nine oh requesting three five zero for a final American 77.

8:37:57 - AAL77: center American 77 you copy request for three five zero as a final.

8:38:03 - AAL77: three five zero for a final American 77 thank you sir.

8:39:30 - Controller 3: American 77 amend your altitude maintain flight level three three zero for traffic.

8:39:36 - AAL77: American 77 stop at three three zero.

8:39:52 - Washington Air Route Traffic Control Center in Leesburg, Va: so who wants to talk to American 77 Bobcat or Henderson

8:40:03 - Controller 3: American 77 contact Indy center one two zero point two seven.

8:40:06 - AAL77: twenty five seven American 77 thanks sir good day.

8:40:14 - AAL77: center American 77 with you level three three zero.

8:40:16 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 Indy center roger sqauwk three seven four three.

8:40:18 - AAL77: three seven four three American 77.

8:43:52 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 climb and maintain flight level three five zero.

8:43:54 - AAL77: thirty three for three five oh American 77.

8:47:20 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 turn ten degrees to the right vectors for traffic.

8:47:23 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 turn ten degrees to the right vectors for traffic.

8:47:23 - AAL77: ten right American 77.

8:47:33 - AAL77: ten right American 77.

8:50:48 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 cleared direct um Falmouth.

8:50:51 - AAL77: uh direct Falmouth American 77 thank you.

8:56:32 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 Indy.

8:56:46 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 Indy.

8:56:53 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 American Indy radio check how do you read.

8:57:12 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 American Indy radio check how do you read.

8:57:28 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American alt 77 American radio check how do you read.

8:57:35 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: override beeping.

8:57:35 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar: this is uh - Indianapolis Control, Dacos.

8:57:38 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar: this is uh - Indianapolis Control, Dacos.

8:57:55 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: override line beeping.

8:57:59 - Controller 3: American 77 roger maintain flight level three five zero show that as your final

8:58:08 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: outside line ringing.

8:58:14 - AAL: American dispatch Jim McDonnell.

8:58:19 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: this is indianapolis center trying to get a hold of American 77.

8:58:23 - AAL: uh Indys hang on one second please.

8:58:25 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: what

8:58:26 - AAL: hang on one second sir.

8:58:28 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: all right

8:58:30 - AAL: who ya trying to get a hold of.

8:58:31 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: American 77.

8:58:32 - AAL: O.K.

8:58:33 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: on frequency one two zero point two seven.

8:58:35 - AAL: one two zero.

8:58:36 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: point two seven we were talking to him and all of a sudden it just uh -

8:58:38 - AAL O.K., all right we'll get a hold of him for ya.

8:58:40 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: all right

8:58:41 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American ah 77 Indy ah center how do you read.

8:58:51 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 Indy radio check how do you read.

9:00:25 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 Indy

9:00:29 - AAL2493: center American ah twenty four ninety three.

9:00:31 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American twenty four ninety three go ahead.

9:00:33 - AAL2493: yeah we uh sent a message to dispatch to have him come up on twenty twenty seven is that what you want em to do.

9:00:41 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: yeah we had em on west side of our airspace and they went into coast and ah don't have a track on em and now he's not talking to me so we don't know exactly what happened to him. we're trying to get a hold of him we also contacted you company so thanks for the help.

9:00:51 - AAL2493: all right.

9:01:50 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: over ride line beeping.

9:02:00 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: outside line ringing

9:02:07 - AAL: American dispatch Jim McDonnel.

9:02:09 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: yeah this is indianapolis center we uh I don't know if I'm talking to the same guy about American 77.

9:02:13 - AAL: yeah I I I cell called him but I did not get a reply back from him.

9:02:17 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: we uh we lost track control of the guy he's in coast track but we haven't we don't where his target is and we can't get a hold of him um you guys tried him and no response.

9:02:26 - AAL: no response (background noise).

9:02:28 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: yeah we have no radar contact and uh no communications with him so if you guys could try again.

9:02:35 - AAL: we're doing it.

9:02:37 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: all right thanks a lot.

9:02:38 - AAL: we're doing it thank you.

9:03:07 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar: American 77 Indy.

9:06:20 - Indianapolis Control: override line beeping.

9:06:21 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: Falmouth Decos

9:06:22 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: this is henderson American seventy seven do you guys have radar on him is he over falmouth or -

9:06:25 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: no we just moved the track there we never you know.

9:06:27 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: O.K. all right you just have the track out there.

9:06:29 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: you guys never been able to raise him at all.

9:06:31 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: no we called company they can't even get a hold of him so there's no no uh no radio communications and no radar.

9:06:36 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: and his last clearance as far as you know is on course to falmouth and then jay one thirty four right well we're just gonna treat him like non radar and we've already told the next sector they're gonna have to sterilize for him until we find out.

9:06:49 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: O.K. thanks.

9:06:50 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: ID.

9:08:43 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: override line beeping.

9:08:54 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: line ringing.

9:09: 27: AAL: and it was a Boston-L.A. flight and 77 is a Dulles-L.A. flight and uh we've had an unconfirmed report a second airplane just flew into the World Trade Center

9:09:00 - AAL: American dispatch Jim McDonnel.

9:09:02 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector radar associate: Indianapolis Center did you get a hold of American 77 by chance?

9:09:05 - AAL: no sir but we have an unconfirmed report the second airplane hit the World Trade Center and exploded.

9:09:10 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: say again

9:09:11 - AAL: you know we lost American eleven to a highjacking American was off . . . boston to los angeles flight.

9:09:17 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: it was all right i can't really I can't hear what you're saying there you said American eleven.

9:09:23 - AAL: yes we were hijacked.

9:09:25 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: and it -

9:09:27 - AAL: and it was a Boston-L.A. flight and 77 is a Dulles-L.A. flight and uh we've had an unconfirmed report a second airplane just flew into the World Trade Center.

9:09:42 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: thank you very much good bye.

9:10:30 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: calls Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate line beeps.

9:10:32 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: Indianapolis Control, Dacos.

9:10:34 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: all right this is Henderson there was an American eleven departed off of uh New York goinh to L.A. got hijacked American 77 departed off of Dulles is going to L.A. dispatch doesn't know where he's at and confirmed that two airplanes have been uh they crashed into uh the world trade center in New York so as far as American 77 we don't know where he is but they say uh American eleven was hijacked off of a new york airport going to lax and uh

9:11:07 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos PA: but we don't have a track on him.

9:11:07 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: affirmative.

9:11:10 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: you mean like they just took off without a clearance.

9:11:13 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: no you mean American eleven.

9:11:14 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: yep.

9:11:15 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: he he's depart well I guess he did because he was goin to L.A.

9:11:17 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: but nobody ever tracked American eleven is what i'm asking.

9:11:20 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: don't know that I don't.

9:11:22 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: oh O.K.

9:11:23 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: know just where he lefi from or uh.

9:11:25 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: there's no flight plan in the machine right now and -

9:11:28 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: yeah I just looked at that, too.

9:11:29 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: I'm

9:11:30 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: as far as what we know that's that's all we know I talked to dispatch and that's what they relayed and they confirmed it here that I guess two airplanes about crashed into the the trade center.

9:11:37 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: huh?

9:11:39 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: all right.

9:11:40 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: oh

9:11:40 - Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate: oh

9:13:54 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: override line beeping.

9:14:04 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: line ringing.

9:14:37 - AAL: American dispatch Jim McDonnel.

9:14:39 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: Indy center here.

9:14:40 - AAL: yes sir.

9:14:42 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: American eleven you guys said he departed off of uh New York.

9:14:45 - AAL: Boston.

9:14:46 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: Boston he was going to L.A. and it was a hijacked airplane.

9:14:49 - AAL: yes.

9:14:50 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: and you have you heard anything from American 77.

9:14:52 - AAL: no.

9:14:52 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: O.K. and if.

9:14:53 - AAL: I talked to a winder in the center up there and I gave em them the information I got.

9:14:55 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: O.K. thanks a lot.

9:14:56 - AAL: O.K.

9:14:57 - Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: all right
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Below is a story from a controller at NY Tracon

(An FAA Controller in New York) writes:
Well, now that many of the details are being/have been released about the departure points, flight paths, etc. I can tell you a bit
more about how it looked from the radar scopes. Though I wasn't at work at the time, I'm told it was pretty apparent that something was up within a short time after the first flight left Boston.
Therefore, this part is obviously 2nd hand reports as relayed to me, and may contain a few errors. I'm told the taxi & departure were all normal, but that sometime during the climb... the aircraft departed it's assigned course, and 'killed' its transponder. For you non-ATC types, the transponder is an electrical device which is set on a discreet 4-digit code for each flight, and also gives us altitude information. Anyway at this point, the Boston Center (ZBW) controllers thought they simply had an emergency... probably a serious one, but none the less just a "normal" event that occasionally happens.
Apparently a short time after this... one of the flight attendants called her station back at Boston Logan via cell phone, and told them what was happening. The station then called the tower
manager, and the word then cascaded to the facilities with a need to know. Now NY Center (ZNY) and the NY TRACON (N90) airspace borders that of Boston Center.. and remember the Transponder was off, so no one knew the plane's altitude... so the watch desk at N90 was told what was happening. Of course, all we knew is
that we had a possible hijacking. We of course were able to track the aircraft with radar. It's speed seemed normal, but we did not know it's altitude. By it's speed, we assumed that it was
holding the altitude it was last seen at, or close to it.
Sometime during this, the 2nd jet departed BOS for LAX. I'm told it's taxi & departure were also normal, and that at a point after it's departure... it also departed it's scheduled
flight path, BUT it kept it's transponder on. We did not however know for certain if it was also hijacked...you ATC types know what I mean, and
I'll not elaborate here.
Of course, you know how 'trolls are... we all like info. For those who don't know, the watch desk here at N90 is located on a shared "platform" with the Traffic Management folks which is raised & sits right in the middle of the IFR room. It's easily accessible for all
of us working here, and indeed many of us have to walk up there for APREQ's, TMU releases, etc. during the course of a normal day. And there are 8-10 of those 22 inch color monitors there, which display all of the flights over the US inbound for the N90 area major airports. Usually 1 monitor for each of the major airports, and aircraft color coded as to whether they are air
carrier, air taxi, biz jet, & FLIB's.
Now the reason I mention this is because special flights (med evacs, lifeguard flights, SAM, etc.) are displayed a different color form the rest... and as there usually aren't very many of them
in comparison to the others, they stand out to anyone taking a look.
Needless to say, those flights being tracked into our airspace stood out. As such, word got around pretty quickly to everyone on the floor as to what was happening. 2 probable hijackings in 1
day was news.
So, many of those at work at the time watched the first flight fly down the Hudson River. JFK, LGA, & EWR were told to stand by to possibly receive a NORDO (no radio) aircraft. The flight
continued down the Hudson... still fast... past a "logical" turn point for LGA... past another turn point for EWR. Now everyone's thinking it might run the Hudson all the way south, and then
turn east along the south coast of Long Island inbound for JFK. Instead, it disappeared at the tip of Manhattan Island. We then heard that it
had hit 1 of the WTC towers. At that point, N90 management went on our highest security status, and within 5 minutes...
there were Nassau County police units securing (blocking) the front gate of our facility.
I arrived just in time to watch the 2nd jet fly in. It was initially at FL240 and doing 480 kts, then began a descent. Most of us
thought that it was possibly a "back-up" in case the first one failed. Initially, it's track seemed to take it far to the south of
Manhattan. There of course many opinions about what this one may do, but many thought that now that the 1st had done it's job, maybe it's going to land at JFK and then continue on overseas
where the highjackers could go home.
However, the speed never decayed. It came on thru 10,000 and never slowed. At the same time, a slow turn to the northwest was observed. It came on through 5000, speed 490kts. As it neared other aircraft in the area (mainly news & police helos), the Collision Alert (or Ca-Ca as we call it) started beeping as the computer tallied up speed and altitude parameters between the various aircraft. Then the Low Altitude Warning started
chiming in as the computer calculated the speed and altitude as it related to the height of terrain & obstacles in the area. Then finally
the actual raw radar blip disappeared... the ransponder track went into "coast" mode (which it always does after it loses a transponder signal), and continued north along Manhattan Island for 3 radar sweeps before it disappeared off of the screen.
Everyone was just pretty much silent for a few seconds, as we all had figured out what had happened, even before the folks in the break room watching it on TV came running back in and reported it. Of course, the radio frequency's and land lines went into full fury as everyone in the area reported seeing it. All of the towers were watching along with the tracking they were doing
on their D-BRITE (tower radar scopes). And of course there were still planes in the air to attend to, lining them up for approach.
Sometime during all of this, the EWR-SFO jet also departed it's assigned flight path, but with all of the other "action" going on in the room...
none of us on the floor had any word about it. Of course, the 'trolls at ZNY knew, but it was continuing west. I'm told, (don't know) that it was initially thought that since the WTC had been hit, that this one might be headed for the Sears Tower in Chicago.
Anyway, the nationwide ground stop was issued sometime during all of this. I'm not sure exactly when, as I was in the break room watching the TV for a while. Then the EWR-SFO jet turned
southeast. When it did and stayed on that rack, N90 was alerted. By this time, the first of the F-15s began to arrive & hold high altitude over NY, while the last of the airborne aircraft that
weren't diverted away were set up on final. Those flying IFR began landing, and only a few had to be "persuaded" to land immediately by seeing F-15's on their wing. Some of the calls on the
frequency from them were actually quite funny. Anyway, we the began to hear that the EWR-SFO jet had crashed in either northern MD, or southeastern PA... which of course it did.
Later I saw the radar plots of that aircraft... and it's initial course after the big turn southeast was for DC.
Towards the end of the
flight, it made a few turns other turns back & forth within 20 degrees of the "base" southeast course... then looked like it resumed the "base" course shortly before the crash. Now after hearing the news reports that at least 3 of the passengers were "going to do something about it", I can only speculate that those minor turns may have been when a scuffle began on the flight deck...
but of course I don't know that
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