Jeep weight

[Stu Olson]

I finally got around to weighing the TJ today. Put here up on a set of scales used for building race cars, buggies, etc. This is my typical wheelin' setup (spare tire, half doors, tools, spare parts, CO2 tank, soft top, etc.), 35" tires, and about 1/3 tank of gas.

Total weight = 4520

Front axle = 2185, Left = 1078, Right = 1107 48.3% of total weight

Rear axle = 2335, Left = 1182, Right = 1153 51.7% of total weight

With a driver in the vehicle, we found that the 2/3 of the driver's weight is felt at the rear axle and 3/4 of the driver's weight is felt on the left side of the vehicle.

We did checks on two other TJs, one with 37" tires and Troy's rig with 40" rubber. If anyone is interested, I can post those numbers too.

[Robert J. Yates]

Post them Stu - I'd be interested for comparisons' sake.

I have always figured my rig to be in the neighborhood of 4200lbs without a top, rear seat or doors. Trail TJ's certainly are porky little things.

[Stu Olson]

Troy's rig -- 40" tires on 20" beedlocks, aluminum D60 rear, regular D60 front, Atlas II, NV4500, 4.0L, rear seat, full cage

Total = 4301

Front axle = 2498, Left tire = 1265, Right tire = 1234

Rear axle = 1803, Left tire = 907, Right tire = 896

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Cabo TJ -- 37" MT/Rs, 37" spare, rear seat, full doors, hard top, 4.0L, 5 speed, 6" alumi-flex LA lift

Total = 4289

Front axle = 2188, Left tire = 1084, Right tire = 1104, 51% of total weight

Rear axle = 2101, Left tire = 1040, Right tire = 1061, 49% of total weight

[Stu Olson]

The scales were extremely accurate. When we had my TJ on them, I climbed into the driver's seat, we checked the numbers and then we zeroed the controller. It registered my weight within 1 pound of what I recorded last week at the doctor's office. (hence my previous comment about the driver's weight distribution)

[StealthTJ]

last time that I weighed mine (full tank of gas, all the tools and spares that I carry, 35's, soft top and full soft doors, roll cage, etc., and me [190 lbs] in the drivers seat):

Front axle 2140
Rear Axle 2240

Total 4380.

Didn't weigh left and right sides, only front and rear axle.




Fred

[Chris L]

Last time I weighed mine it was at 3900 lbs. No doors, top, spare or tools and me in the seat.

[Paradiddle]

Originally posted by Chris L
or tools and me in the seat.

What about spare brake lines?

[Jeff Weston]

Mine was 4050# with me in it with my old lift. I imagine it is a hundred or so pounds heavier now.

[Darrell C]

Originally posted by Paradiddle
What about spare brake lines?

Ooh, that hurts

My one and only rig weighing was almost two years ago. It weighed 4400 with the rear axle 400 lbs heavier than the front. At the time I was running full doors and a hard top.

The hardtop is off and doesn't plan to return. The full doors still see use in the winter around town, but come off for wheeling.

I'll update the weight this spring as I'm curious.

[StealthTJ]

The very first time that I weighed mine (full hard doors, 35 SSR's, with a big 'ole spare hanging off the rear tailgate swing out mount, full tank of gass, all tools, me in the Jeepetc), it was:

Front axle 2040
Rear axle 2460

Total = 4500
420 lbs heavy in the rear

I've worked had to reduce the overall weight and to balance it out.





Fred

[Robert J. Yates]

Originally posted by Stu Olson
Troy's rig -- 40" tires on 20" beedlocks, aluminum D60 rear, regular D60 front, Atlas II, NV4500, 4.0L, rear seat, full cage

Total = 4301

Front axle = 2498, Left tire = 1265, Right tire = 1234

Rear axle = 1803, Left tire = 907, Right tire = 896

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Cabo TJ -- 37" MT/Rs, 37" spare, rear seat, full doors, hard top, 4.0L, 5 speed, 6" alumi-flex LA lift

Total = 4289

Front axle = 2188, Left tire = 1084, Right tire = 1104, 51% of total weight

Rear axle = 2101, Left tire = 1040, Right tire = 1061, 49% of total weight

Thats pretty impressive on Troys' rig given how its outfitted. The weight on the Cabo TJ seems low to me though - but it sure does make me feel better about mine Thanx for the weights Stu - pretty interesting.

[derf]

Originally posted by Robert J. Yates
Post them Stu - I'd be interested for comparisons' sake.

I have always figured my rig to be in the neighborhood of 4200lbs without a top, rear seat or doors. Trail TJ's certainly are porky little things.

I'll be afraid to weigh my CJ when I get it done. Cast iron AMC V8 with iron heads and manifold. Cast iron SM465 4 speed. The Atlas is aluminum but it's not a lightweight. There's even cast iron in the nodular housing for the 9".

It's going to be a pig, that's for sure.

And that's before I get my tubby self in it...

[Robert J. Yates]

Unless you have plated and boxed your CJ frame - you will make up some weight there if you are using a TJ as a bogy to estimate weight from. Also, the Jeep 6 is no lightweight - IIRCC, a Chevy 350 V8 weighs about the same. Your rig might not be as portly as you think

[derf]

Originally posted by Robert J. Yates
Unless you have plated and boxed your CJ frame - you will make up some weight there if you are using a TJ as a bogy to estimate weight from. Also, the Jeep 6 is no lightweight - IIRCC, a Chevy 350 V8 weighs about the same. Your rig might not be as portly as you think

I'm actually planning on plating/boxing the frame to handle the extra power of the 360. I've read too many "my frame is splitting" stories from guys with V8 conversions.

Stock with the 304, the CJ7 is something like 3600 or 3800 pounds. I'm not really getting rid of much that isn't being replaced by something else. The York AC compressor will be my OBA, the plastic fuel tank is getting replaced by a fuel cell, the axles are heavier, the rear 4 link will be as much or more than the leaves, the front YJ leaves weight more than the CJ leaves, even before the AAL. I'm adding a full cage, a cargo box, a 37" spare tire, onboard welder...

I should weigh the thing when I'm done. It'll be interesting to see where I end up.

[Bruce David]

Derf,
My rig weights 4250# with a full tank of gas and tools.
'84 -7, 258,999,300 and 9" front & rear.
37 mtr, Champ BL and spare.
full cage............
it around 49.5 front and 50.5 rear.

Hey Stu,
those scales are cool.
My buddy races a late model, so I have
him come over and scale the jeep after
every major mod.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Bruce David
Derf,
My rig weights 4250# with a full tank of gas and tools.
'84 -7, 258,999,300 and 9" front & rear.
37 mtr, Champ BL and spare.
full cage............
it around 49.5 front and 50.5 rear.

Hey Stu,
those scales are cool.
My buddy races a late model, so I have
him come over and scale the jeep after
every major mod.

That's nice to know. A buddy with a CJ used to always tell me how much heavier CJ's were than TJ's. I'd guess that's not quite the case.

[derf]

Originally posted by Bruce David
Derf,
My rig weights 4250# with a full tank of gas and tools.
'84 -7, 258,999,300 and 9" front & rear.
37 mtr, Champ BL and spare.
full cage............
it around 49.5 front and 50.5 rear.

Hey Stu,
those scales are cool.
My buddy races a late model, so I have
him come over and scale the jeep after
every major mod.

I expect I'll end up in that neighborhood. Thanks for the info.

[DsrtJeeper]

Stu;
You need to post a pic of the Range Rover with no details. Everyone could try to guess the weight. It totally surprised me!

Stu cheated on his rig while on the scales. He let all the air out of his tires and removed the two cow sized attack dogs from the rear tub.

[Stu Olson]

Most folks think I use CO2 in my tires.....the truth is I use helium.

[DsrtJeeper]

Originally posted by Stu Olson
Most folks think I use CO2 in my tires.....the truth is I use helium.

You too?

[Cue-Ball]

Where would an average guy get his Jeep weighed?

I am interested in weighing my ZJ prior to installing my long arms and doing the axle swap I have planned.

[DanB98TJ]

Most truck stops will weigh your Jeep for you. Or, find a local hot rod/race shop that has a scale...or better yet, the 4-wheel scales.

I need to get all my junk (Jeep, trailer, truck/camper) weighed but keep putting it off - I'm kind of afraid of what I'll find.

[Jeff Weston]

Originally posted by Jeff Weston
Mine was 4050# with me in it with my old lift. I imagine it is a hundred or so pounds heavier now.

Had it weighed again yesterday to see how it compares after swapping from the RE short arm to the Full Traction long arm. This time I also weighed it without doors, top and spares but without me.

Before = 4050# - 175# = 3875#

Now = 3940# - 1800# rear, 2140# front

Net gain of 65# was less than I was expecting.

[Chris L]

Jeff did you take it to chandlers landfill to get it weighed?

[Cue-Ball]

Originally posted by Chris L
Jeff did you take it to chandlers landfill to get it weighed?

That's a great idea. I remeber when we took a load of junk to the local dump here they weigh up in and out.

Maybe I will try that this weekend.

[Jeff Weston]

Originally posted by Chris L
Jeff did you take it to chandlers landfill to get it weighed?

No, I took it to a place by my work that does certified weights, though I didn't pay the certification fee. My Honda's brakes decided to self destruct Tuesday so I'm commuting the rest of the week in my Jeep.

[DsrtJeeper]

Originally posted by Jeff Weston
No, I took it to a place by my work that does certified weights, though I didn't pay the certification fee. My Honda's brakes decided to self destruct Tuesday so I'm commuting the rest of the week in my Jeep.

Hey wait! Driving a Jeep is a good thing! Does the Honda have a rainbow on the back window?

[Robert J. Yates]

Originally posted by DsrtJeeper
Hey wait! Driving a Jeep is a good thing! Does the Honda have a rainbow on the back window?

Don't be dissing the Hondas - mine averages 34mpg and is alot more comfortable on the freeway than my Jeep at 80mph.
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They are tin cans though. My front end is making noises like some TRE's have had enough of me already

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Chris L
Jeff did you take it to chandlers landfill to get it weighed?

I called the folks at Waste Management to see if I could pay to weigh the truck and trailer with jeep on it at the local landfill. You would have thought I asked if I could toss a very large and holey bag of Irate rattlesnakes into their offices.


Call your local moving companies. Many of them do interstate moves which are by the pound and they have to be weight certified.

[DsrtJeeper]

Originally posted by Robert J. Yates
Don't be dissing the Hondas - mine averages 34mpg and is alot more comfortable on the freeway than my Jeep at 80mph.

Well you need to make up for the lousy Suburban gas mileage somewhere. Have you driven your Jeep on the freeway with the new steering? I just drove to Moab and back with no complaints. I just can't get my ears to stop ringing from all the wind noise!
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They are tin cans though. My front end is making noises like some TRE's have had enough of me already

Put some one tons on it and "get 'er dun."