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View Poll Results: Keep the YJ, or get a TJ with the options I want? | |||
You fool! Keep the YJ, and build it up! | 4 | 25.00% | |
Go for it! Save the time and hassle, spend alittle, get the TJ of your desire | 12 | 75.00% | |
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll |
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Well, you did ask if you spelled "that" right.
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'Night all! Jeeper |
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Dammit you guys! I have like 23 e-mails in my inbox, GUESS WHAT THEY ARE!
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He he he, Great tread! Any way, I just wanted to pop up and say that the story mrblaine narrated twelve posts ago is completely accurate.
We were a group of three jeeps spending a typical March weekend in Johnson Valley. Eager to try something new I wanted to do the Jackhammer trail. Little did I know that Jack is a triple-headed monster: the very technical part up the waterfalls, animal fear section of the double climb on top of the mountain, and brutal downhill amongst piles of giant rocks of all sizes. Close to the end of the trail, there was an obstacle that I wouldn?t do again for all the whiskey in the Ireland, as long as it stays as I remember it: a hungry hole the height of a two-story apartment building on the left, a wall on the right, and a rocky descent in the middle, about 75% wide of what would make a jeeper comfortable. I won?t go into technical and emotional details, but hammering down was involved, and how the jeep stayed in one piece could not be described in English. So what do we do after we finnished Jack? We run Sledge. And get this: I am driving over nothing. Park avenue. CAVOK. Smooth sailing. And then. Bam-Kaboom-Kamlemo!!! The pieces fly high in the air. The hub has exploded following U-Joint failure... |
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mrblaine and jeeper, I understand your point about unpredictable and unanticipated events, often due to cumulative wear on the machinery. As they say in Spain, mierda pasa.
Of course, the very same thing can occur not just on the trail, but in an urban setting as well, and you could find yourself late at night with a broken jeep in a not so fine neighborhood, and maybe you left your cell phone at home............................you can see where this can also lead to an unpleasant outcome. I have no doubt that the type of trail conditions you seek out are considerably more arduous than those I encounter. And, in my travels, if I come across mudpits or obstacles that I think my 99SE (stock, except for 30" treads) is going to have difficulty with, then I just head another direction. And, although I have owned a Jeep for only 3 years, I have yet to be left stuck in the woods. The Jeep is low in mileage, and it has never been pushed really hard. The chances of mechanical failure are, in my opinion, minimal. Sure, there is always the possiblity that I will break something I won't be able to fix. But I can tell you right now, with the experience of over 20 years of motorcycle riding behind me, both on and off road, you are one heck of a lot safer in a Jeep than on a bike in any conceivable situation known to man. And if I had to choose between getting stranded on the trail or being broken down in the city (which could happen to anyone regardless of what kind of vehicle you own or mechanical expertise of the driver), then I would much prefer to take my chances in the outback. I think that the two of you approach this sport from the perspective of purists, which is not at all a bad thing. When in college I played varsity tennis, and those of us on the team were always a bit annoyed by those weekend tennis players who would occupy our courts, and barely be able to keep the ball in play for more than 3 seconds. I can relate to that. |
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I am one of the more openminded individuals that exists when it comes to what people want to do with their vehicles. An example- If you were to take just about any group of enthusiasists and eavesdrop on the conversations when they assemble, you would find that they are just like we are when we get together. They talk about the latest products. The last run they went on. Their most and least favorite shop, store, competitor, or even whether or not they agree with competition in and of itself. They look over and admire or pick on each others vehicles. They show off their latest mod. In the group you will have some that are new, some that are older, and some that just show up once in awhile. This holds true be it a group of lowered hondas, monster trucks, motorcycles, skateboarders, hot rods, old trucks, you name it. It is just the dress code, manner of speaking, and the sheetmetal that changes. Not much else.
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I wouldn't say that I'm a Purist. Rather, I have two hobbies that I enjoy and both benefit from each other. One is working on my Jeep, the other is using it.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrblaine
[B] Rather than purist, how about experienced? I have seen the most simple part really ruin the day of a very experienced jeeper. I am also slightly offended that you even think that I look down my nose at anyone with a jeep that takes it offroad. I am one of the more openminded individuals that exists when it comes to what people want to do with their vehicles. The term purist was not meant as a derrogative, nor much less an insult. To me it implies a purity of purpose, that kind of dedication that makes for champions in any sport. On the other hand, you have the recreational types, those who enjoy the sport, but who take it less seriously, often much less seriously. When I played college tennis, I was a purist, and I made no apologies for it. Although for me it never meant being rude to others. So now you feel "slightly offended, " after having made mockery of the language I used in a previous post? Maybe you should lighten up a bit, perhaps try a smiley for a change. Does that agree with an "open mind?" |
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That is why I explained how I look at the sport. As far as mocking you, not my intent in the slightest. I was demonstrating to you that there are those of us that can communicate in any style you prefer. Want to use big words, we can do that. Want to use little words, we can do that also. You pick.
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We were a "bit annoyed" that they were using our courts, when we needed the time to practice. That is true. But I do not take it to mean a division between the most and least accomplished, but rather the natural division that you find anywhere between those who are serious about perfecting a skill, and those who are just out for a day of fun. |
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Poppycock............
Of course you don't need to know mechanical squat to drive a vehicle on dirt roads. Be it a Jeep or a pick up truck for that matter. I thought we were here to talk about four wheeling. |
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This is one complicated discussion, you know.
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Watch those winkies, Leadfoot, 'cause that kinda stuff will get you in deep trouble 'round these here parts, y'all hear?
(hope mrblaine appreciates my sincere effort to use "little words") |
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I personally chose not to use the emoticons unless I am joking around with someone. I have seen far too many instances where someone intentionally slammed another poster and then put up a stupid smiley as if that could make it all better. It was also not my intent to have you communicate in a style you are not accustomed to. Do as you wish and I will sincerely try to accomodate you. Personally, I enjoy a lively discussion. I have certainly enjoyed this one.
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Sounds good to me. Much of the time these debates are nothing more than matters of semantics.
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Do you want your YJ a LITTLE bit more or a new TJ a LITTLE bit more?? Which will you have more fun with. A bigger or newer JEEP? Just go with your gut, no one can decide for you. good luck
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95 YJ - held together by magic "When in doubt, gas 'er out" |
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Expansive diction can be amusing. Makes one reminisce of past intercourse with mrblaine and Ace. Imaginably, not as distant as we might cogitate.
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Makes me glad that I toughed it out and finally managed to earn that H.S. equivalency diploma. |
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The meaning you have in mind is further on down the list. It's obvious that you have never been a member of the Turtle club. One of the membership questions is to give a word that ends in "k" that means intercourse. talk
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Touche'
But don't tell me you didn't look it up to make sure |
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Robert, when I was a kid and heard about sexual intercourse, the first thing I did was look up sexual/sex, then intercourse. I was disappointed. For some reason I didn't think it referred to men and women talking! I did figure it out though.
Dictionaries have changed since I was a kid, for sure! |
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Much better than to go off half cocked. |
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