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Old 05-26-2006, 03:40 PM
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Did anybody happen to notice the nitrogen bottle in those pics I was using at the time?
Nope.

Explain.....

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Old 05-26-2006, 04:56 PM
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I was in a hurry and stopped by a local welding supply store to exchange it for a new one since I was out of mix. The guy at the counter told me he sat my new bottle on the loading dock so I can just pick it up on my way out. Well.....in my haste, the nitrogen bottle was the only bottle sitting on the loading dock at the time & I just picked it up & tossed it in my Jeep.

When I got home I wrecklessly hooked it up to my welder & started using it. I immediately noticed my welder was welding alot differently. It seemed to be better/hotter than before.

The common denominator was the tank and it's unusual color. I think it was the next day or so that I brought it back. They traded me for a bigger bottle at no charge.

Stupid of me.

Good thing it wasn't acetylene!
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Old 05-26-2006, 06:09 PM
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Good thing it wasn't acetylene!
Wouldn't have mattered. You would have instantly figured out that the regulator wouldn't be able to be threaded in. Acetylene tanks have a left hand thread to prevent the mistaken hook-up for the wrong application.

In fact all fuels used in cutting have left hand threads and all non combustible gases use a right hand thread.

Ever notice that the propane tanks used with bar-b-ques have left hand threads?

There is one exception to that, but it applies to disposeable fuel cylinders like those used for lanterns and camp stoves.
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Old 05-26-2006, 09:19 PM
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Ever notice that the propane tanks used with bar-b-ques have left hand threads?
That's what I was thinking too. At least in the past.

I just walked out to my backyard to check this and found differently on my BBQ tank.

Clockwise = tighten
CCW = loosen
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Old 05-26-2006, 11:38 PM
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That's what I was thinking too. At least in the past.

I just walked out to my backyard to check this and found differently on my BBQ tank.

Clockwise = tighten
CCW = loosen
Got a picture of that?
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Old 05-27-2006, 01:56 AM
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Yep - I do now.

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Old 05-27-2006, 06:55 PM
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Joe, are you selling the hobart to john??? if not, I could use it to go along with my ****ty drill press.
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Old 05-27-2006, 07:44 PM
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Joe, are you selling the hobart to john??? if not, I could use it to go along with my ****ty drill press.
If Joe's is gone I'm sure you won't have any problems finding other similar welders sitting around, :cough: Miller 135 :cough:
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Old 05-27-2006, 10:20 PM
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Joe, are you selling the hobart to john??? if not, I could use it to go along with my ****ty drill press.
I haven't heard back from John at all.

I know he was getting ready to move to somewhere in the Dakota's very soon. Perhaps he's already in transit.

My Hobart is not spoken for yet. You are welcome to shoot me a PM offer, mention one here, or call me on my cell. I'll shoot you a PM with my cell number if you'd like to yap about it.
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Old 05-27-2006, 10:31 PM
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I haven't heard back from John at all.

I know he was getting ready to move to somewhere in the Dakota's very soon. Perhaps he's already in transit.

My Hobart is not spoken for yet. You are welcome to shoot me a PM offer, mention one here, or call me on my cell. I'll shoot you a PM with my cell number if you'd like to yap about it.
Can I explain the difference between a 12 gauge and a .410 to him?
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Old 05-27-2006, 11:02 PM
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Feel free to explaine Blaine.

Hey...that rhymes.
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Old 05-28-2006, 12:07 AM
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Can I explain the difference between a 12 gauge and a .410 to him?

Learning how to weld with a 110 welder is worse than trying to teach a 12 year old how to shoot trap with a .410 shotgun.

Small guns and small welders require skill to use. Result oriented learning activities require good results to keep one interested in the learning process. Inhibiting that with crappy equipment is a bad thing.
There ya go Blaine.

My interest stems from the fact that I don't have 220 readily available at my place. The way I see it, it would be better to have some way of sticking metal together (in a pinch) than no way at all.

Joe, Matt... I doubt I'd be willing to part with more than $200 for the whole shootin' match.

FWIW, the few times I carried a shotgun it was a 16ga Ithica pump.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:24 AM
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Joe, Matt... I doubt I'd be willing to part with more than $200 for the whole shootin' match.
Then perhaps Matt wants to pay somebody to take his welder off his hands.

I don't mind giving a friend a good deal, but ~$200 hardly even pays for the bottle and mix gas. The tank hooked to my Hobart is at ~90% capacity and ~$200 is what it takes to have one and have it filled.

If I sold my Hobart along with the mix tank for ~$200, this would require that I was paying somebody to take my welder from me.

I thinks I'll pass on that for now.
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Old 05-28-2006, 05:20 AM
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There ya go Blaine.

My interest stems from the fact that I don't have 220 readily available at my place. The way I see it, it would be better to have some way of sticking metal together (in a pinch) than no way at all.

Joe, Matt... I doubt I'd be willing to part with more than $200 for the whole shootin' match.

FWIW, the few times I carried a shotgun it was a 16ga Ithica pump.
Well, before you really insult someone, get a Ready Welder and at least familiarize yourself with something that is also useful on the trail.
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:13 PM
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:43 PM
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None taken Brian. I just wanted to toss out the costs (my costs which are probably fairly standard since I don't have a source for a special deal on a tank or mix) of having a tank the size I have, plus filling it. It's not required to run one as I'm sure you know. To run without one, the contact leads are reversed which is real simple to do and just run flux core wire which will work okay.

I may just sell the Hobart & keep an extra tank handy which is almost full.
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