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Don, that is a pretty uniformed assertion.
There's plenty of media coverage of what the Minutemen organization is doing and what observations they have made while they are at the boarder. With a little searching, you could at least gather enough information to make more than a knee jerk assesment. |
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Not a knee assesment.
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Every report I have read or heard about the minutemen organization has been devoid of any mention of the arayan nation.
Can you provide a link showing that members of that group are participating in the minutemen organization? [edit] I just went through about 15 articles from various AZ newspapers about the minutemen and what is going on down at the boarder and I didn't see "arayan nation" mentioned once. [edit 2] I did find an article stating that the Mara Salvatrucha gang (MS-13) had sent members to Az. to take on the Minuteman organization. So how about that link Don? |
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I've been reading various news sources and have yet to find mention of the Aryan Nation brotherhood being involved with the Minutemen Project. I have seen reports of Minutemen officials voicing concerns about potential roudy or overzealous volunteers, and assuring they'll be reported to LEO when any law violations are observed. Do you have a link to these news sources you referred to, with regards to the Aryan Nation? John's reference was that of the stereotypical redneck fourwheeler image; just because some <insert John's great definition here> is into fourwheeling, doesn't mean everyone into fourwheeling is a <insert John's great definition here>. |
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Feds Arrest 3 in Alleged Militia Plot Militia leader gets 6 year sentence Militia groups remain upset over Waco standoff FBI Reveals Guns, Chemicals, Fake ID's California militias revive their rhetoric Wife accuses federal agents of conspiracy against spouse Feds raid home of militia chief Militia groups are shrinking, but Internet aids hate groups Waning interest, arrests leading to decline of militia Militia founder still sees plots in government Former Ky. Militia Leader Sentenced Militia founder leaving state for Alaska A kinder, gentler militia? Militia Members Guilty in Bomb Plot Feds Offer Reward for Militia Boss A Far-Right Militia's Far-Fetched Plot Draws Some Serious Attention Montana Sheriff Contends Right-Wing Militia Plotted Killings Grand jury indicts two in 1997 bank robbery Domestic Terrorists: Homeland Defense Judge Declares Mistrial in Bomb Case Officers Kill Militia Voice Man wanted in shooting known for racist radio program Ex-militia member flees into highland Milita activity on rise Militia men held in murder plot Militias see treatment of Idaho family as example of intrusive government Bombing drives out militia members No Militia Patsy Militia groups say McVeigh case is proof of US plot Five Years After Peak Of Militia Movement, Extremist Groups Fading McVeigh factor destroys militias McVeigh listened to militia-inspired Arizona broadcaster Citing Declining Membership, a Leader Disbands His Militia Indiana in middle of thriving militia region Militiaman gets prison for evasion Texas farm standoff enters second year The militia lurking in your backyard Militaman guilty of intimidation Militia chief's trial remains in Galesburg "For Christians there's a higher law than a federal judge" An armed Texas family resists the courts Texas milita standoff continues Indianapolis Baptist Temple became a "cause celebre" for the radical right Authorities conduct a quiet siege Phony 'National Militia' Netted 2 Pipe-Bomb Suspects Two men indicted in explosives inquiry Militia leader sent to prison Feds arrest militia trainer Leader of militia will admit role in plot Patriot movement leader acquitted of conspiracy, attempted kidnapping Alleged California Y2K plotters plead not guilty FBI arrests militia members for alleged bomb plot FBI Breaks Up Sacramento Bomb Plot, Paper Says Keeping an Eye on Would-Be Y2K Terrorists FBI, Militia Members Exchange Views Web sites give small militia a big voice FBI Meets with Militia Groups 3 Militia Members Sentenced in Mich. Inside a Nest of Vipers 'Vipers' in the 'Burbs Armed and Dangerous Enemies of the State The View From the Far Right A Sigh of Relief the Size of Montana Militias Arming With Instruments of Fraud Militias: Ranks are Swelling Arizona viewed as a hotbed of patriots 10 bombs seized in raid of militia Exposing the "militia" mythology Mountaineer Militia: Men indicted in bomb plot Jury Convicts Viper Citizens' Militias Have Taken Hold in Rural California Militia extremists defend their views Scary Paramilitaries Trouble on the Home Front Militia Member Found Guilty Field Manual of the Free Militia Militia leader sentenced to 40 years I just can't understand why
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And yet, you still haven't provided a link supporting your assertation that the arayan nation has anything to do with the minutemen or that the arayan nation are even currently in the area of tombstone as you so claimed.
You also need to do a little bit of research if you think the minutemen organization is a militia. Aside from that, militias were very y2k. Haven't you heard that post millenium, it's all about the terrorists? |
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Its no ****ing wonder jeep people get the bad rap that they do I don't just make this **** up as I go, I can comprehend what I see on a TV news story.
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So ya, it does kinda look like you're making it up as you go along. Or rather, like way too many folks, heard the words "Minuteman" and "Aryan Nation" in the same story, and jumped to an unsupported conclusion. |
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It's funny to see someone call somebody else a moron, then contruct a sentence containing "... I seen the news report...". Do any of the items on your list have anything to do with the Minuteman Project in Arizona? Have you visited the Minuteman Project website? If so, please tell me what the very first sentence, at the very top of their homepage says.
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There are many different types of "news". Newspapers, periodicals, TV news, Cable News, etc. I was asking for clarification as to where you saw that the arayan nation was affiliated with the minutemen. So I have my search of various AZ newspapers yesterday with about 15 stories releated to the minutemen organziation with not one mention of the arayan nation vs. your one NBC TV news sound bite about how there are arayan nation members in Tombstone, Az. Is that about the sum of it? Or maybe I'm not seeing things clearly due to my moronism? |
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If hatred based on ethnic origin is not what moves these people, then what does?
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Well, I am less than happy with the tone Gilchrist had regarding the arayan nation in the first link, although that is a partial transcript so it is hard to tell one way or another how the converstation played out.
The 2nd link is an editorial so it doesn't count for much either way, IMO. The 3rd link makes no mention of the arayan nation at all. The 4th link states the minutemen's position on extremist groups. |
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I am not talking about the original Minutemen, of-course, but about the new border patrol ones. No negativity, just cold discussion. Except for that trolling remark: **** you! |
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I was hoping the difference between the two is that one is a homogenous group that is organized to hate particular races or groups of people in order to further their own adgenda, where as the other is a goup of citizens that is organizing in order to call attention to a problem they feel the federal goverment is ignoring.
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Aryan Nation brotherhood is a miltant white-supremist and segregationist group. Read the minutemen web page yourself, see what they're all about, then answer your own question. Such language You were called out on a legit troll, fess up. |
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Would it be fair to say that the New Minuteman are motivated by hatred towards Mexicans? Or that would be an incorrect statement?
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