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WJ knuckle plan?
How does this sound?
I have the Knuckles, Calipers and Rotors from a 99 WJ in my garage. I am going to get the Trackbar Bar bracket, Knuckle Spacers, Swaybar extension links from one of the distributors of ORGS MFG. Then the Tie Rod drag link I will get from Down East Off Road the one they use for there D30 high Steer. The reason I?m thinking of running this tie rod drag link setup in because it is an inverted T setup ?I think that?s what it?s called? it will make it easier to get the Drag link and the trackbar the same length and I can run the tie rod up on the top hole of the Knuckle. It looks like Down East is using a WJ knuckle in their D30 high steer so the tie rod should be the correct length. I am going to drill the stock Rotors to 5x4.5. What is the best way to drill the rotors as far as setting up the pattern and getting it in the correct location? I am going to use the stock hubs with superior shafts. I am going to use 15-inch wheels with 4 inches of backspacing with 99 calipers and grind a little if needed. This is the set up I?m planing on trying. Does it sound like it would work? The reason I?m trying to do something a little different then Mark and Blaine is that I like how the Down East kit has the Tie rod up higher. But the thing I don?t like about the Down East kit is that it doesn?t upgrade the brakes as much and I think I can do it for less money then what the kit costs. Is there a better way then this or have I totally missed the boat with this plan? Also I am looking for someone to weld the spacers to the knuckles the way Blaine does it. I am willing to pay someone and pay for shipping to do it. But I expect a good product in return. I am pretty sure I can weld the brackets and stuff because it is about the same thickness as all the other stuff I?ve welded. But the knuckles make me nervous. |
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Are you using an export knuckle on the drivers side?
You are correct in that going to an inverted T steering link you could easily run equal (or near equal) length DL & TB, the problem is that the upper steering arms on WJ knuckles are not set-up to offer correct Ackerman. I tried it on mine & couldn't stand the way it drove with reverese Ackerman, not to mention the stress that it placed on the ball joints. Paul |
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A standard US WJ passenger side knuckle has 2 steering arms, 1 for the DL & 1 for the TR. A standard US WJ drivers side knuckle has 1 steering arm for the TR. They are setup to run cross over steering. DEOR uses an export drivers side knuckle with 2 steering arms, thus offering the option of running inverted T steering on top of the top steering arms (they do not use the bottom steering arms at all). Do both of your knuckles have upper & lower steering arms? I have an export drivers side knuckle, but I am not using the upper arm as I don't like the way my jeep drives with reverse Ackerman. This is due to the fact that the upper arms are "pointed in" as you noted. You will notice a huge decrease in your turning radius on & off road, & your front end will want to plow off road, which I think will lead to early ball joint failure.
Paul |
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Just as an FYI, I have the DEO setup and like it so far. Yes, my ackerman is a bit negative, but is it negative enough to really affect things? Who knows. Will I switch to the lower knuckle in the future? Maybe. I'm going to wait and see how it affects ball joint life and off road driving manners first. If I don't notice much, I will leave it the way it is. Time will tell. My Jeep is not a daily driver so the wear may be slower than others.
I love the clearance above the rocks it gives me (and I can pull the diff out without removing the tierod). So far, onroad manners are almost the same as with my previous stock setup. A little more tire scrub in tight turns is to be expected, but I can live with that. Chris |
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I think I don't have an understanding of reverse Ackerman can someone please explain it and what causes it?
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http://www.rctek.com/handling/ackerm...principle.html
It deals with RC cars, but gives some good illustrations of Ackerman Steering principles. |
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Thanks, Now I get it |
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Here is the comparison: American WJ passenger knuckle has draglink arm and tierod arm driver side has tierod arm only Import WJ passenger knuckle has tierod arm only driver side has draglink arm and tierod arm DEO setup passenger knuckle has draglink arm and tierod arm (american knuckle) driver side has draglink arm and tierod arm (import knuckle) neither of the tierod arms are used, only the draglink arms Here is my writeup on the install: http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hi-steer.html |
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Chris this picture shows the tie rod being completely above the pumpkin, is that accurate? I'm looking to do something like this on my SOA YJ, and it would have to be that high to clear
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J/K If both knuckles have both arms, you have an American passenger side knuckle and an Export driver side knuckle. HTH |
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So if this is the case in 99 maybe they produced some WJ's with two, two arm knucles that will blow some away. |
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Hadn't thought of that. I ask for a redo. Here is the comparison: American WJ right side knuckle has draglink arm and tierod arm left side has tierod arm only Import WJ right side knuckle has tierod arm only left side has draglink arm and tierod arm DEO setup right side knuckle has draglink arm and tierod arm (american knuckle) left side has draglink arm and tierod arm (import knuckle) neither of the tierod arms are used, only the draglink arms |
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Chris |
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Anyone what to buy a Right WJ Knuckle? |
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Where do I get a lift side Inport Knuckle?
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I looks to me that you have (2) right side USA knuckles there. Sorry I can't help on locating an export knuckle. Perhaps someone here knows a source other than DEO. |
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