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Old 04-20-2004, 11:37 AM
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Without another kid on the way, there's no real reason to change. Your situation is going to be different since you are changing jobs.

It's funny though, I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out how I can commute and swing a sometimes tow rig and you're wracking your brain on how to commute and get rid of your tow rig.
Are you inbound for a second child Shalom?
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:43 AM
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Robert,

The company should reimburse you for travels to and from meetings. If not, you are may deduct them on your taxes. As well as any parking fees, toll fees, ect.
I know that Sergey and its one of the things I am factoring into this decision. As near as I can tell, I still think that I won't have what it takes to pencil out a new deisel truck. If they were the same price as a gas truck, well then maybe

Jeff, agreed on that lease price being very attractive - thats what got me started on this line of thought.
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:49 AM
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Ask mrblaine if he is buying a new truck again, his old ones are diesel, and can usually be had for very sweet price.

BTW, still record the miles even if you buy a little vehicle.

Diesel is not a requirement (for tax purposes), and the 6000 lbs requirement is for the section 179 deduction, where you can deduct up to $100,000 in the first year, or something like that, it is separate from the business use of your vehicle deduction.

Ask Chris L (and confirm with your tax guy), basically, if you buy a Diesel (as in heavy enough) truck, there is a way to write it off completely in the first year.
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:52 AM
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It's funny though, I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out how I can commute and swing a sometimes tow rig and you're wracking your brain on how to commute and get rid of your tow rig.
LOL, I hadn't looked at it that way but then I guess we can chalk that irony up to the age gap. Most of you guys are just punks anyways compared to me
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:55 AM
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there is a way to write it off completely in the first year.
Sergey, I do not need a truck to perform the duties of my job. I could see if I was to ocassionally have to haul something but that is not the case so IMO, there is no case that could be made for me needing a 3/4 ton diesel truck. I hate paying tax but I hate IRS audits even more.
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:01 PM
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You don't need a truck, how about a Hummer H2, then. You need to look sharp on the job, don't you?
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:18 PM
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...and then what?

All I can see with the BJ mobile is unending ridicule from the liberal elite for being an anti american gas hog and a menace to the poor car buying public
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:36 PM
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Smile

Let's build a monorail! From your house to your office, and to all the meeting places you go to.

? How to find original supporters ?
JeepBBS

? How to organize your supporters into a group, or groups ?
Tell them "you better!"

? How to announce your group to the public and government officials ?
Via USPS.

? Putting together a system proposal, that will be accepted as viable
Monorails appeal to the liberal elite and therefore are viable

? What are some of the $ costs of getting a system approved
In the times of budget uncertainty in CA the officials better approve the system right away and don't waste taxpayers money on any costly approval processes.

? How much will it cost to build and operate the system
The costs will be directly proportional to kickbacks to the government officials.

? How to calculate projected revenues
What revenues? The monorail system is not for profit. It's because it is good.

? Finding the financing needed to build and operate your system
We'll have barbeque raffle, and the rest will be covered from the CA budget.

? How to deal with those who don't want your system
Use a broom on them. Not the handle end, the end that has bristles. And replace bristles with rusty nails.
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:06 PM
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Are you inbound for a second child Shalom?
Not specifically no.

We're getting to the point where we've managed to train this one fairly well and the system has been generally worked out.

Which means it's about time to go out and have another and throw everything out of whack again.

WHHHHhheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

You know?
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:07 PM
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Buy a motorcycle They are great on gas and where you live you probally could ride most of the year. And they are not very expensive.
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:11 PM
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Robert,

Don't listen to 02_WHITE_TJ_X. He doesn't like you, and wants you dead.

Support the monorail system!

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Old 04-20-2004, 02:06 PM
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Which means it's about time to go out and have another and throw everything out of whack again.

WHHHHhheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

You know?
Yeah, do it now, 'cause at the age of 9, my daughter keeps asking me "why and when". It's only a matter of time before I hear "how".
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Old 04-20-2004, 02:35 PM
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Robert,

Don't listen to 02_WHITE_TJ_X. He doesn't like you, and wants you dead.

Support the monorail system!

Why would he die? People ride motor cycles to work everyday and I think Robert is a great guy. I hope you where just joking.
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Old 04-20-2004, 02:41 PM
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...People ride motor cycles to work everyday...
What people? Suicidal maniacs?
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Old 04-21-2004, 10:37 AM
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Tracy,
You haven't ever been out to So Cal have you or if you have, you weren't paying attention to what was going on out on the freeways. You get better odds at the craps tables in Vegas than you do riding a bike around here.

The car is about a done deal, I am just waiting on the paperwork to be faxed to me. I'll be going with the lease on the Civic VT that was discussed earlier.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:19 AM
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Robert,

Let me know how the lease works out and if there is any hidden "gotcha's". After dropping my Civic off for service yesterday and looking at the Odysseys while I was waiting for my loaner car, I think I'm gonna' go for it.

BTW, the service yesterday at the Honda dealer was the best that I've received at any dealership. Maybe there's hope yet.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:48 AM
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Well, outside of the usual "we as customers don't have all the information" there appears to be no gotcha's. The VT does not come with floor mats, side moldings, or power anything. It does come with a/c, automatic and cd player.

The residual is 55% from AHFC which is more than what you would get from a bank so thats a good place to start if you do not plan on ever buying the car. The cost of money from AHFC is .0017 which works out to about 3.9% which is also ok, not great but ok.

My friend played with the residual for me as I wanted more miles, alloy wheels and cruise and he thinks he can get me those items with no money out of my pocket as they will bump up the residual. Bumping up the residual is what makes the lease cheaper but you need to understand the cost of those extras, what you are going to be charged for them and how they will affect the MSRP which is what the residual is based on. Basically, when I hit my milage, I will need to give the car back and get another one as it will be very cost prohibitive to buy it with the inflated residual. The other side of that coin is that the high residual should then put me into another new car without any money out of pocket, or else very little.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:58 AM
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Robert,

In my experience the residual you agree on in the beginning is negotiable at the end.

We leased a Trooper several years ago - $3500 down full refundable $199 a month - this was a really nice car with lots of options.

At the end of the lease we were within our miles and had ever intention of giving it back. The payoff that we agreed to was in the neighborhood of $18K. Isuzu sent us a letter saying that they had adjusted our payoff to $12K (mostly due to those rolloever reports).

I took the car into a Toyota dealership, the guy appraised it at $14K, I said deal, apply the difference to my down payment and we purchased our Sienna. He was ****ed to find out my payout was only $12K.

Make them an offer at the end of the lease if you really want it.

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Old 04-21-2004, 12:02 PM
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How does Sales/Use Tax work on leased vehicle? Do you have to pay the use tax on the total price of the vehicle, or on the price of the vehicle minus residual?
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:07 PM
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You pay the tax monthly based on MSRP is how I understand it but I maybe see your point and I plan on asking about it.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:20 PM
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Make them an offer at the end of the lease if you really want it.
I've made a decision that I will not ever be buying this car or the one that will follow it and that is how my lease is being negotiated by my friend. This deal will set up the one for the next car. I need a car that is the automotive equivalent of an appliance so AFAIC,I see no sense in buying it if I can rent it cheaper. Honda's are the equivalent of a good B&D toaster IMO and thats not a bad thing. All it needs to do is reliably toast bread day in and day out for as long as I have posession of it
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:28 PM
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It's also a good idea to keep the record of actual costs to operate the vehicle: gas purchases, oil changes, maintenance, etc. If it turns out that the percentage of these costs equal to business use of the vehicle is larger than the standard per mile method, you can use that instead.
Once you have taken the "standard" mileage rate on a particular vehicle, you must continue to use that rate. That is, you may not switch back to actual expenses.

Also, the standard rate is not available for use on leased vehicles. You are required to use actual expenses.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:32 PM
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Thanks for the info. I did not know that.
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:28 AM
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2004 LX Coupe



It cost me $1620 down and 203/month for 3 years with 15k per year milage. 35mpg rocks
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:49 AM
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Now, your daughter and you should switch the vehicles, and the world will be balanced again.

Or just drive the girly car.

Congratulations!
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:54 AM
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The girly car gets twice the gas milage
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:59 AM
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The girly car gets twice the gas milage
Tell me about it. I drive my mom's car, when she's not using it.



And to add insult to the injury, hers is usually filled with hairbrushes, and various skin moisturizers. And there are fluffy things attached to the key chain.

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Old 04-22-2004, 10:04 AM
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I drive my mom's car
...and you gave me grief about my choice

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Old 04-22-2004, 10:23 AM
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Now, your daughter and you should switch the vehicles,
Then the car wouldn't stay within his allotted miles.
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Old 04-22-2004, 10:26 AM
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Then the car wouldn't stay within his allotted miles.
Put it on jack stands, and let it run in reverse.
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