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Old 03-10-2003, 11:33 AM
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Hmmmmmm

http://www.californiarockcrawlersass...ary_finals.htm

So you're saying you're racing this weekend?

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Old 03-10-2003, 11:34 AM
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Enough wheeling pics. Jeff, we want driveway shots, both sides, good light. Your're not 'embarassed' are you
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Old 03-10-2003, 11:38 AM
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Enough wheeling pics. Jeff, we want driveway shots, both sides, good light. Your're not 'embarassed' are you
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Like all your pics of your XJ work Paul - eh

Actually - no I'm not ebarassed - why should I be?

The XJ is at work today - in full public view in good light. I don't have a digital camera here at the office. Anyone who wants to can drive up to Walnut to see it.

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Old 03-10-2003, 11:46 AM
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Actually - no I'm not.


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Old 03-10-2003, 12:02 PM
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Sworn to being secrect? You sure?
I'm not sure what you are talking about.

I'm also not sure why there is more interest in the dents in my rig then anything else - did I tell you that nothing failed? Your parts worked great, in addition to the other stuff on, and your bumper is excellent in the clearance department.

Mark - you know where I live - come by if you are that interested.

PS - I'll be by your shop tomorrow to ship that bumper.

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Old 03-10-2003, 12:05 PM
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I'm not sure what you are talking about.

PS - I'll be by your shop tomorrow to ship that bumper.

Jeff
I'll have my camera. Are you going to bring the Jeep?

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Old 03-10-2003, 12:20 PM
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I'll have my camera. Are you going to bring the Jeep?

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Why - torturing you is much more fun

Did you get your new camera?

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Old 03-10-2003, 12:24 PM
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Why - getting tortured, by you guys, is much more fun

Did you get your new camera?

Jeff
Yes I did. 30x zoom is good for spy pictures!

No jeep - no box!

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Old 03-10-2003, 01:11 PM
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IGetting use to showing off your body damage doesn't get learned until after you learn how to drive. HUH?
If you want to talk smack, how about you bring your junk down to Mennifee this weekend and compete it - Jeff or myself will be more than happy to spot you and then you can show us how its done.
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Old 03-10-2003, 02:36 PM
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If you want to talk smack, how about you bring your junk down to Mennifee this weekend and compete it - Jeff or myself will be more than happy to spot you and then you can show us how its done.
Robert,

I'm the last person on earth who would ever go rock racing. Even if I was given the "Fireant" to drive, I would pass it up. And the last person I would have spot for me would be Jeff. I would love to have you spot for me the next time were out on the trail having fun Jeeping. But rock racing, No Thanks!

Jeff already know we're all giving him **** about giving tons of **** himself. He's already told me he doesn't know how to drive, himself and he knows he needs lots more seat time. He just needs to find a vehicle that he'll keep long enough to learn in it. Then he'll be proud of that body damage and not keep it a secret.

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Old 03-10-2003, 02:55 PM
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Well,
Seems to me there is a line is all. Nudging a guy a bit is one thing, him having a bit of self depreciating humor about his skills or rig is another but I guess it got to the point where it seemed that it was more than that. Frankly, you bus drivers all seem real touchy to me - whether its a discussion about the weights of your rigs, strength of the unibody or a guy wanting to get out of a bus and into a SWB. Nothing personal in my previous response Mark but to say that I give Jeff a ton of credit - he put his money where his mouth was and competed which is alot more than what most of us will ever do with our rigs.
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Old 03-10-2003, 04:06 PM
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EXCELLENT Sergey - I thought Shalom would be the one to get it.

One of my all time favorite movies.

Jeff
I'm a little slow on the internet uptake lately. I'm just getting around to processing the fact that you likened my emergency repair job at autozone to white trash-like activities in the other thread.

I'll have you know that I was wearing the clean john-deer cap, not the greasy one, when I was at the autozone parking lot.
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Old 03-10-2003, 05:24 PM
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Well,
Seems to me there is a line is all. Nudging a guy a bit is one thing, him having a bit of self depreciating humor about his skills or rig is another but I guess it got to the point where it seemed that it was more than that. Frankly, you bus drivers all seem real touchy to me - whether its a discussion about the weights of your rigs, strength of the unibody or a guy wanting to get out of a bus and into a SWB. Nothing personal in my previous response Mark but to say that I give Jeff a ton of credit - he put his money where his mouth was and competed which is alot more than what most of us will ever do with our rigs.
Just for you I'll stop.

Are Bus people touchy or am I. I hate being called names in groups where I don't belong. I would rather stay my own individual, its easier being an a$$hole that way. I've never had issues with SWB jeeps or people. I sell'm both parts and I really don't give a flying F*** what anybody drives. As long as it aint broke on the trail in front of me. Hell I even have freinds that drive ... everything.

Are people who compete better than those who don't?

Nothing taken personally.

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Old 03-10-2003, 05:26 PM
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Robert, are we touchy because we answered YOUR questions? I think the problem is that you didn't like the answers. Maybe you were hoping to hear that unibodys are heavy & weak. Sorry, they are actually quite light & quite strong, but now I'm getting touchy again.
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Old 03-10-2003, 05:49 PM
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but now I'm getting touchy again.
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That implies that you stopped and started. I didn't think you ever stopped.
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Old 03-10-2003, 05:51 PM
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Robert, are we touchy because we answered YOUR questions? I think the problem is that you didn't like the answers. Maybe you were hoping to hear that unibodys are heavy & weak. Sorry, they are actually quite light & quite strong, but now I'm getting touchy again.
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Paul, you are truly blessed with a "cream of the crop" vehicle. I am certain that Goatman wishes his was as strong as yours is. Maybe his fab skills are not quite on the same par.
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Old 03-10-2003, 06:11 PM
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Paul, you are truly blessed with a "cream of the crop" vehicle.
Does that mean its white?

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Old 03-10-2003, 06:15 PM
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No jeep - no box!

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Puhleeese Jeff, take the Jeep!
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Old 03-10-2003, 06:43 PM
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Paul, you are truly blessed with a "cream of the crop" vehicle. I am certain that Goatman wishes his was as strong as yours is. Maybe his fab skills are not quite on the same par.
So do you think I am wrong when I state that the unibody is quite strong?
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Old 03-10-2003, 07:15 PM
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Mark - I know you were pulling my leg and I was messing with you right back. Ultimately Mark's attitude is the one that most of us have - lets wheel regardless of who drives what.

Robert - thanks for the props!!!

Who really cares if I drive a CJ, a YJ (as long as it's not red ), a ZJ, WJ, XJ, or TJ?

Let's please not turn this into a TJ vs. XJ debate again - frankly why don't we just drive what we want to and have fun. I'm sick of hearing how stiff this is and how light that is.

Thank you and please drive through...

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Old 03-10-2003, 08:01 PM
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[B]...Frankly, you bus drivers all seem real touchy to me -...[B]
Don't say "all", not all of us are in the "all" you're referring to.
And it's not a bus it's a car!
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Old 03-10-2003, 08:09 PM
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And it's not a bus it's a car!
In the old days we used to call them station wagons.......
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Old 03-10-2003, 08:22 PM
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HAHA! Your post made me think of Edith and Archie...

"Boy the way Glen Miller played,
songs that made the hit parade.

Guys like us we had it made,
those were the days.

And you know where you were then,
girls were girls and men were men.

Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again

Didn't need no welfare states,
everybody pulled his weight.

Gee our old Lasalle ran great,
those were the days!"


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Old 03-10-2003, 09:02 PM
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So do you think I am wrong when I state that the unibody is quite strong?
Paul
That's not what I said at all. What I said was that Richard Gautier(sp) does not share your same sentiments and is less than pleased with the performance of sheetmetal as a structural member.

I am fairly certain that his is just an anomalous rig and the normal rules don't apply.
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Old 03-10-2003, 09:43 PM
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Shredder was a good time. I'm not sure if Garry really dislikes the ARB or if he's just saving face. Maybe He should get a formula 1 steering wheel with the paddles so he can turn it on and off.

We were behind Stinky all day and it seemed to work fine, and stayed square all day even when flexed up. (and I've got a picture or two) I think those front hubs should stay locked better now that they have a day of wheeling on them. I would guess the most difficult thing to deal with was all the time away from wheeling while building the creature.



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Old 03-11-2003, 08:21 AM
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That looks like one awesome trail! It doesn't look used much. How come? Is it that bad?
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Old 03-11-2003, 08:28 AM
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Dig it - I finally fixed my photo hosting bs

Sergey is the best passenger spotter.

Jeff "Sergey - how we lookin on that side?"

Sergey "There is some paint on this rock and lexan on the ground - I'm not comfortable...."



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Old 03-11-2003, 08:29 AM
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Also - to anyone who thinks MTRs cut easy - no damage to this poor tire.



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Old 03-11-2003, 09:08 AM
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So do you think I am wrong when I state that the unibody is quite strong?
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Depends on what the reference point is - I was treated to a very nice birds eye view of the entire rear end of an XJ folding in from a fairly standard hit that any one of us could incure out at JV on the rear bumper. Ya it was a hard hit, but to completely wrinkle the rear of the Jeep? I think in the case of unibodies - strong is a relative term.

Like I said - touchy bunch. Look at the hornets nest I stirred up on the backside of this thread with one small comment
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Old 03-11-2003, 09:26 AM
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Depends on what the reference point is - I was treated to a very nice birds eye view of the entire rear end of an XJ folding in from a fairly standard hit that any one of us could incure out at JV on the rear bumper. Ya it was a hard hit, but to completely wrinkle the rear of the Jeep? I think in the case of unibodies - strong is a relative term.

Like I said - touchy bunch. Look at the hornets nest I stirred up on the backside of this thread with one small comment
Garry totaled (his word, not mine) his TJ in the 1st 100' of his 1st Comp. does that mean TJ's are not strong? I've probably run the Hammers 20 + times more than you & I have never broken or wrinkled anything, while you've had a bracket or 2 tear off your frame, does that mean unibodys are stronger than TJ's? Point is, **** happens. Had I known you had an agenda when you asked your questions I would not have responded, I don't like debating with people that have an agenda & I don't like when they run out of ammunition & resort to name calling.
As for this debate, I'm done with it.
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