Brake Tester needed, So Cal only

[mrblaine]

As the title states, we need a tester with special requirements this time.

As the brake kits have evolved, we have continually refined them and with a break-through this evening, I can lock up 35's slightly less than halfway through the pedal stroke with a very nice, easily modulated pedal.

This is with the small kit and a couple of tweaks to it. So, here are the requirements.

You need to be relatively brake stupid. We don't want to debate the merits of brake function. We just want you to tell us whether the mod works better, the same or worse.

You need to be local to So Cal so our supervision is easy.

Vehicle requirements-

37" tires or thereabouts but not smaller.
Unmolested braking system, stock with rear discs.
Later style unitbearings.
5 on 4.5" bolt pattern.

Rim size is not important as long as you have a max of 4.5" of backspacing with a 15" rim.

I will do the install and break-in.

You need to be at my beck and call as far as supervision goes and be willing to report near daily or daily on the performance.

The rig needs to be daily driven or daily driven for the duration of test.

At the end of the test you have the choice of keeping the kit or changing back to stock.

Contact me via PM or call Van.

[Dan-H]

If you cannot find someone local, and want to try something semi-long distance, I have a friend running 37" mtrs on his stock axles. He lives just out of Sacto.

He is still drum braked in the rear.

He's savvy enough to do whatever install would be needed.

Its not the same as you being able to see it however, so I expect I know the answer will be thanks but no thanks.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Dan-H
If you cannot find someone local, and want to try something semi-long distance, I have a friend running 37" mtrs on his stock axles. He lives just out of Sacto.

He is still drum braked in the rear.

He's savvy enough to do whatever install would be needed.

Its not the same as you being able to see it however, so I expect I know the answer will be thanks but no thanks.

I appreciate the offer Dan. As you know, I will keep it in mind, but my supervision of this test is very critical. I discovered something by accident that I need to verify in person.

[speaceman]

I can't wait to hear what you discovered by "accident" and if it turns out to work.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by speaceman
I can't wait to hear what you discovered by "accident" and if it turns out to work.

The accidental part was the result of hours of poring over brake part books and noticing some similarities and differences between the various parts.

I know it works on Kat's. I just want to see if it will work on a bigger and heavier rig as well.

[steelman]

I'm only 'break stupid', can't help you with the rest!

[Jerry Bransford]

I'm still happily running your other test pads but I'm curious, is that just a brake pad difference or is there more to it than pads?

[John]

Originally posted by Jerry Bransford
I'm still happily running your other test pads but I'm curious, is that just a brake pad difference or is there more to it than pads?

Just slap some 38's on there Jerry, you'll get to find out

[Jeff Weston]

I imagine it will be difficult to find a test mule on this board, as most are enlightened to the fact that 37's on stock brakes (and axles) is not a bright idea. No, this little experiment has JU written all over it.

[John]

An unmolested Jeep on 37's? Hell I don't know any unmolested Jeeps on 33-35's

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Jerry Bransford
I'm still happily running your other test pads but I'm curious, is that just a brake pad difference or is there more to it than pads?

You can quit calling them test pads. They are now the standard pads shipped with the kit.

OTOH, you should know by now if there was more information I was going to divulge before the testing is complete, I already would have.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by John
An unmolested Jeep on 37's? Hell I don't know any unmolested Jeeps on 33-35's

I think I said I want an unmolested brake system. I want a highly modifed rig for the rest of the requirements.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by Jeff Weston
I imagine it will be difficult to find a test mule on this board, as most are enlightened to the fact that 37's on stock brakes (and axles) is not a bright idea. No, this little experiment has JU written all over it.

We have a guy who stepped up with 40's on the front 30. Does that count?

[Robert J. Yates]

Originally posted by mrblaine
We have a guy who stepped up with 40's on the front 30. Does that count?

Where did you find this guy Blaine? Pix or ban

[Kiwi]

Originally posted by mrblaine
You can quit calling them test pads. They are now the standard pads shipped with the kit.

OTOH, you should know by now if there was more information I was going to divulge before the testing is complete, I already would have.

I'm still running the PF pad that were the standard when I got my kit. I'll keep waiting a bit longer for the latest and greatest. I usually pull the trigger on something , then the next day a better mousetrap is built. I might of course wait forever, but it sounds like something worth waiting for might be in the works


typing this on a commodore 64, cause a better 'puter is just round the corner

[quadna71]

i wish my jeep were closer to you. you could throw a stock brake setup on the front and then test it all you want. i won't be needing it for about another 3 months.

[papromike]

Maybe one of these days you will include us lonely short buss drivers..

[Robert J. Yates]

Originally posted by papromike
Maybe one of these days you will include us lonely short buss drivers..

LOLz...I was thinking it might be you with the 40's on stock axles

[papromike]

Originally posted by Robert J. Yates
LOLz...I was thinking it might be you with the 40's on stock axles

Robert... come awn now.. give me SOME credit...

at least I took it up sledge....

and NOT stock axles btw...stock steering box YES (I.E. No steering)

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by papromike
Maybe one of these days you will include us lonely short buss drivers..

May I suggest some elevator shoes for the short part and a support group to take care of the absence of friends?

[speaceman]

Just buy a wrangler already. All the rest of us shortbus and shorterbus (xj) drivers have for the most part.

You will have to actually learn how to pack (fit) all your camping and trail gear and there is considerable retraining required for learning how to drive the shorter wheelbase (at least in my experience) but is is really darn nice not to ever have to worry about your rear corners anymore, or your roofline, or your doors, or the underside of your jeep, or.....

Well, you get the idea.

[papromike]

Originally posted by mrblaine
May I suggest some elevator shoes for the short part and a support group to take care of the absence of friends?

Well someday maybe Ill aspire to be that cool.. Until then.. Ill just be the member of the flock that strayed... (or never got in line)

I have been assimilated though..

[blkTJ]

Originally posted by papromike
Well someday maybe Ill aspire to be that cool.. Until then.. Ill just be the member of the flock that strayed... (or never got in line)

I have been assimilated though..

don't worry, you're an auto flocker, not a true black sheep.

[papromike]

True. AUTo.. NO manual like you Brian...

[mrblaine]

Kit is on, broken in, what do you predict the result to be?

37-12.50-15" MT/R's.

Van's 15" Bigger Brakes.

[TJeeper]

Locks them up.

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by TJeeper
Locks them up.

You are correct and it does so quite handily. I was surprised.

[TJeeper]

So what did you change? It sounds like a larger caliper?

[mrblaine]

Originally posted by TJeeper
So what did you change? It sounds like a larger caliper?

Externally there are no discernible differences. In fact, all components are directly interchangeable with the current kit including pads, calipers and caliper brackets.

[quadna71]

welp, it sounds like it solved the only aspect of the kit that i thought needed tweaking - maybe i can keep my current tires after all! i'll keep my ears on for the updates on when replacement parts come available.
chris (sigh...J.E.E.P., right? )